40% and 50% to their #2/3 damaging abilities and another 10% to holy spenders during dawnlight seems pretty massive.
Also this is a nerf frost mage thread. Please.
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Think it’s like a 12% overall damage buff. But 5% of it is aoe cleave.
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Can’t believe Blizzard’s inability to properly balance mages has people so mad theyre saying the n word. Blizz really needs to get its act together.
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Kindly grow up
Choose RET , Choose Success
Why haven’t you play RET yet?
Look my eyes
Tell me
Why baby why
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Man idk I’m worried Ret will still be cheeks. Ferals / Fury Warriors set the bar so high for what a “strong” meele is atm
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Rets completely fine now and definitely not cheeks, much like every class that isn’t mm/bm/fury/ww/all 3 rogue specs, frost/arcane. They just need to bring those dps down and then sort holy/rdruid out.
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Yeah I mean you can say that but are those specs you mentioned going to be brought down? Devs don’t do tuning the entire season they stop halfway through. What are the chances they actually get to Fury and Mage in a meaningful way at this point? I’d say slim to none
Yeah probably non, furys been an issue since s1 and they just buff it or do the most minor nerfs to it, same with bm, etc. But like affs in a rough spot, does it need buffs? Nah, destro is mid, does it need buffs? Nah, because they feel fine into non giga meta stuff. Just need nerfs at this point and not buffs I think.
Real men play melee. Wannabe Wizard class is cringe.
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yea ret war priest will be insane next week
surprise surprise
They do: Nerf ret before its too late!!!
It won’t because of the Ret lol. Fury has been dodging nerfs for the entire expansion
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It’s incredibly boring that’s why. It’s the white bread, vanilla ice cream, default NPC on DPS specs. Low button count, simple damage, simple defensives, simple CC… there’s a reason why it’s the most placed spec in the game.
People should really look at this like ret being fixed rather than a buff we had a bug on the beams now its fixed…the multipliers toned down and now they are back up and now finally the beams do the damage they should have…
All that and we will still be among the worst because that aint the issue…also this kills the other spec totally now…big hammer down!
i swear ret is the ultimate noob stomper spec! if these buffs go live on tuesday all i can say is retpolaypse 2.0 here we go again my simple sons 
Ret buffs? No warrior nerfs? Do you guys think that ret/war will finally find a way to be viable?
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Probably not but I made it work in SL S2 and will again.
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for minor increase in dot damage not burst… and i hate herald. why didnt they buff hammer of light to current health pools when its suppose to be templars nuke. i get under 1m to sometimes 2.5m with all buffs up. that range is dumb and even more dumb i’m capping at 2.5m damage
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For one, 50% on Dawnlight and 40% on Sun’s Avatar are not minor. Dawnlight dot is actually pretty excessive. Second, guess when Dawnlight is reliably applied? During burst.
Herald is the spec for men
Unironically just play Prot if you want big hammers. Prot Hammer of Light go brrr (up to 8 mil crits of you catch someone without defensives) and Prot Templar is superior to Ret Templar by every single measurable metric. Off healing, damage, support, defense, you name it.