So the Jailer is going to Zereth Mortis, in order to destroy Zereth Mortis and the other zereths? Because are multiple Zereths now. Always has been. The Zereths are super important and have always been important to the story. But Azeroth is a Zereth? Or Azeroth is something like a Zereth or a sleeping Zereth or God or something like that. And its crutial that the Jailer destroys Azeroth so, he can destroy all the Zereths. So then he can make his own Zereths where he is now in charge?
Can someone please explain this out for me? Or do I have to wait for Bellular to make the lore video explaining it?
Because right now, its still just a bad guy we never heard of. Who is apparently really the ultimate bad guy. And has always been the ultimate bad guy. Going to a place we have never heard of. To use things we have never heard of. To destroy our world for some reason, so then he can be the boss of everything.
The purpose of Zereth Mortis is to create afterlives for the SL. But in the Sepulcher is a device called the Machine of Origination, the thing that makes it happen. If used for evil it can unmake things too.
The Jailer is going to use that machine to unmake the fabric of existence. But he needs more than that. He created that hole in the sky to connect the SL to Azeroth and through it he’s going to link the Machine of Origination to Azeroth’s titan soul. Our titan is going to be used as an energy battery for him to get the power for the Machine to do its thing on a universal scale.
If he succeeds then Azeroth will be sacrificed and killed and the universe destroyed. Which might ruin your weekend if you had plans of being alive. All that would remain is the Shadowlands itself reworked into a dark empire under his rule. No threats from other cosmic forces, no life or living mortal realm anymore. Only Death would exist forever onwards.
For his origins all we know is at some point he began to dislike his job as Arbiter. He went on a hunger trip wanting more power, more dominion and freedom. The First One’s design to him was wrong and had to be destroyed. Kind of similar to Sargeras really. Did one thing for a very long time, eventually had second thoughts and a turning point, and now is doing the opposite thing.
Thank you for explaining. This does shade in the grey a bit.
It is just my opinion, but this plot is REALLY stretching to be important. Even with all this at risk, it still just feels so detached from Warcraft that I am not invested in it. Im still going to play the game and raid, but I really want to get back to Azeroth and Warcraft. Not whatever this all is.
Zereth Mortis is basically where Death was born. The magic for the death is all made in Zereth Mortis. Spoilers. There are zereth of the other types of magic. So the first ones made everything like we already knew. And there is a zereth for light,fel, arcane, void etc.
These are probably places the brokers may have visited as they have been said they witnessed work of the first ones. And many of the magics used in shadowlands is mixed with shadowmagic. Bastion has some arcane use for some reason. So the first ones basically made all the types of magic.
The Jailer is doing what he thinks is best for him, or something like that. He is a god. God logic is usually not how we think. There is probably a whole cosmic story we are unaware of, which puts us out of the loop on why he is doing things. The story is being told from a perspective of us finding out things as we go along. It’s not really a satisfying story but it seems to be setting up new story for things to come.
Azeroth is like the most powerful titan we know of, and she seems close to the death realm for some reason (like in ICC). She may be a play of Azatoth, who is a creature from lovecraft’s universe that sleeps and dreams reality. If you look at the cosmic chart she is represented as reality for us.
What I find rediculious is that sylvanas was under control by the jailer? So she was controlled by Arthas lich king but he lost his hold but not really because jailer but she worked against jailers puppet Arthas to take him down thus ruining jailers plans…
But then kills self because no purpose so jailer made her do that? Then does all the still leading up to know and tells Anduin she wants him to choose willingly as she claims she did but again not really because shes under jailer mind control but the when hes at full power his strongest then shes magically like nah bro I wont serve but has been all this time so did jailer make her also shoot at him?
Then also the dreadlord she had with her dont the work as spies for Sire who also worked with jailer so why did he betray Sylvanas/jailer and…OMG my horns have twisted into knots!!!
At this point it seems the devs themsleves are just trying to kill the game, that’s basically the only plan that seems consistent if you look at what’s currently going on.
Which in itself is a plothole, since I presume even Zovaal and his minions need anima to function… or in the very east it’s by products like Stygia. And according to early SL lore anima is only accrued by formerly living souls.
Like, did Zovaal just NOT consider this when he made this plan? Will the new Shadowlands and it’s enslaved citizens just not need anima/Stygia?
It’s so bad that the “Meme” version of the Jailer, between videos like this, Captain Grim, etc, have 100x more personality for this character than what we have in game.
WE STILL HAVE NO ACTUAL MOTIVATION FOR WHY THE JAILER WANTS TO GO TO ZERETH MORTIS AND WE ARE IN THE FINAL PATCH WITH MOST OF THE LORE DATAMINED! WUT???
WUTTTTTT???
DANUSER, THAT IS NOT HOW YOU WRITE A STORY DUDE.
Like, after playing some other games recently, looking back at the state of WoW, I just wonder how a billion dollar franchise has someone like Danuser at the helm writing this absolute garbage.
I may just have to get myself some chicken tendies so I can throw them on the floor in disgust.
Sargeras wanted to come to Azeroth to destroy Azeroth, BECAUSE he thought Azeroth would be responsible for bringing forth a Void Lord in a Titan Body if he didn’t. We have the what and the why there. With the Jailer, we only have the what. Wanting to “Unmake Reality” is not a why, but a what. It’s the thing he’s doing. We should know WHY he wants to.
Nothing, not a single thing has hinted at why he betrayed his fellow Eternal Ones, why he is so single-minded he was willing to discard Denatharius (who helped him break free), why he is willing to destroy every living thing.
It’s insane. It’s actually insane how Danuser is missing out on something so basic.
Or might wake up a grumpy Azeroth who was finally sleeping peacefully. Angry woman waking up? Like Sandy from Spongebob when she was woken from her hibernation?
Do we even know that? All we know is that one day, according to the other Eternal Ones, he betrayed his brethren. We have to imply that he got fed up. We actually don’t know.
It’d actually be super interesting if Zovaal, after seeing the souls passing through, saw the evil of mortals and sought to unmake them. Some backstory about how those who live do evil in fear of their inevitable death, and that he wants to end the concept of life/death and allow the creation of a perfect order.
But we don’t have that. We have nothing. There is no story. Zovaal is just evil. That’s it. He’s pure evil with no motivation. They wanted a “Super Devil”, and what’s more evil than being evil for no reason? He lives in a society or something, except even Joker, as deranged as he is, has some kind of motivation in most of his portrayals (expose the hypocrisy of “sanity” or whatever).
Well in the last scene with him from SoD he said “Too long I endured the Maker’s flawed design!” Which does strongly suggest he was not happy with his position or how the First One’s ordered the afterlife.
But you are right there’s a bunch of history we’re missing, we only have a general idea. Honestly I think Blizz intended SL to be a longer and more fleshed out story, giving more time to develop Zovaal. But all these unfortunate patch delays ruined the timeline and soured public opinion so changes happened.
I always thought the Sepulcher was that tiny little undead “base” (if you can even call it that) in Silverpine Forest where the Sons of Arugal would come eat you if you wandered off into the woods?
