So mythic plus needs like a 50% nerf across the board

Basically 90% of the player base is functionally incapable of doing the simplest thing. Like not standing in the circles that killed you 3 times before. Or interrupting. So lets nerf it to heck and back and the 10% of us with brains can just all do 20s. Any objections?

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No reason people should be doing content that high easy.

M+ is made to be comparable to the loot it drops in diff and as such it drops lower than heroic raids. Looking at the number of players that have aotc vs 14/15 keys the 14/15 keys are much more common. As such the diff is around where it should be.

If you cant do a 14/15 there is a reason for it and you should get better.

Those 20s would also be nerfed tho yea? Versus 20s now.

Except people in 190-205 gear doing 1.5k dps overall, shows scaling isn’t possible when your player base is mostly made up of fail.

So run with the 10% if they’ll have you? The participation level in WoW esports is fairly low. You can either help build the community up, or play with that crowd. Not really an RPG thing.

Build up a community of millions, surely you jest?

shouldn’t we worry about making the playerbase 50% better instead?

if the players are the problem why aren’t we addressing the root cause?

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Because that’s impossible? I mean if you’ve got a genie lamp over there and are willing to waste a wish sure be my guest.

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Nah, just the ones you encounter. There aren’t millions queued up for esports in this game…but if you even built up 10 players. You’d never have to queue w randoms again.

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Some players are really bad. Others you can see trying with all their might but they (probably) don’t have the right tools or the right info to play their class.

Either way, making mythic+ any easier given its rewards would trivialize the entire game.

No, tired of things getting nerfed because the player base is brain dead and wants to ride a loot escalator. F em’ they deserve nothing. It’s about time for them to learn to get good and stop getting carried through everything. Every bit of content gets nerfed into mindlessness. I’m sick of it

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You keep going back to esports… the “esports” crowd isn’t the top 10%, it’s the top 0.01% if that.

If you can interrupt and not die to the 3 foot fire circle under your feet at the same time congrats you’re better than 90% of the WOW player base.

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What rewards?

Well. They could put in tutorials for players to learn as they level, explaining what they’re supposed to do with that new spell they just got, and when and why. They could put in basics of how to play your role. Basics of dungeons and raids. Scenarios to practice on their own time with ai bots as other players. Entirely optional for players who want to learn.

Nah. Things are fine the way they are. Change nothing.

Nerfing across the board ? nah
Nerfing or hotfixing adds with dumb oneshoting mechanics on a very low cooldown, yes. But they’re already doing that a lot these days so i am expecting another round soon with every affix.

The ones driving you to do this even though you seem to hate it.

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Tutorials? You mean the things most people skip or just click thru as fast as they can? That’ won’t solve a thing and you know it. Heck they’ve tried it, people just whined and complained. You cannot fix the playerbase.

I don’t hate it, i love it, i hate the people who also sign up to do it when they have no idea what they’re doing or worse, actively don’t care their failures effect others.

I love how you conveniently leave out which bosses.

Cause a lot of bosses, like Margrave Stradama, 1.5k dps is normal due to her in between phases.

That means those players should NOT be getting Keystone Master because they are not a Keystone Master player.