So mm is p scuffed

Classes Hunter
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Mm is a pretty scuffed spec now huh, quite slow aimshots, wonky rotation, low dps. Can we see a roll back?

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If you have slow aim shots then you are playing the class wrong

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Dps is pretty good actually, single target build makes aimed shots almost instant with trueshot up. Icy veins aoe build is clunky garbage, volley, salvo and bullet hell build is much smoother and performs better. Sentinel is in good spot, DR on other hand needs some love. Overall it is ok once you brake old rotation habits.

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MM aoe is already swapping to volley salvo tomorrow…

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Elaborate …

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MM feels amazing to me right now. The only thing I would change is having more haste again during trueshot, but honestly it hits so hard during trueshot that I don’t mind so much anymore.

Aimed shot is faster than it was before. You just need two stacks of streamline before you get into your aimed shot rotation, then you need to make sure you maintain the stacks of streamline by consuming precise shots. Actually feels really good.

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It works pretty good, i wish we head little bit more flexibility in upper part of talent tree and maybe slight increase to streamline cast speed buff, two and half to five % per stack maybe.

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A 2-Streamline Aimed Shot is now 1.2s, up from 1.25s without Streamline, I’ll give you that, but it’s still longer than our 0.875s Aimed Shots during even a single stack of Streamline before unless running Improved Streamline.

And outside of Trueshot…

  • A regular Aimed Shot takes 3.0s, up from 2.5s;
  • A single-stack-Streamlined Aimed Shot takes 2.4s (roughly a normal Aimed Shot before), up from 1.8s; and
  • A two-stack-Streamlined Aimed Shot takes 1.8s (which is literally just a single-Streamline AiS from before).

In short, virtually nothing was changed. We were just made more dependent on ramp-up and on bloat-talents that just give back what was previously baseline. Shocking no one.

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Buffs tomorrow are changing the build for keys, guide is already updated with new build

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It’s playing pretty much the same as it was

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How do you think the buffs tomorrow will change things?

I haven’t looked at discord or the guides yet. Works been crazy.

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I checked it they still have old one up at icy veins. Also mm buffs tomorrow are for DR .

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Explosive shot and volley were buffed. Literally using salvo in the sentinel build right here in the guide https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/marksmanship-hunter-pve-dps-spec-builds-pet-talents?area=area_3

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Dark ranger will be best for single target raid, sentinel is still best for keys.

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Yes very true, I guess the change I like that is different is playing around doubletap. I also like spending precise shots on kill shot. I understand not many people are running dark ranger right now other than me, but that could change tomorrow. I also understand in pve people likely ignore doubletap and just continue with the rotation which doesn’t add any playstyle value.

It’s just that a lot of people read the 3 second cast time and complain without actually trying it and seeing that in reality, it’s not.

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Those are pretty big buffs. Big enough that it’s actually changed the recommended builds and rotation for M+ altogether.

I don’t really raid much so I’ve not kept track of it, but it does seem that the DR changes have made them actually viable now for Raid and/or Single Target. Which was always the intention.

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BM still the best hunter in raid, highest single target

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I don’t think it’s actually that rare to see, especially since you can get out over 4 doubled Rapid Fires per 120s through TS and Volleyball, doubling the value of Bulletstorm.

But to be clear, I made no comment on 11.1 as a whole above, only on that the perceived acceleration to AiS is basically just an initial nerf that you can more finnickily recover from.

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Think DR MM overtakes BM?

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In the SIMS MMDR is top RAID ST Raid damage. All of the specs are fairly close now, but MMDR is the recommended raid spec.

For M+ it is still Sentinal, but I feel that DR may not be as far behind, and has superior defenses for M+. I was running a mixture of DR before, I will be running it full-on now to see how it does.

Overall, for PvE I think MM is doing well. This toon this season I will try to do more M+ and I have been doing a lot of Delves. I will raid more in the later half of the season.

So with everything lets see how it all shakes out.

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