So let me get this straight

Nope, no hard feelings at all! Enjoy the game!

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And none of them go on for more than a couple years without the playerbase completely dying out. The people on pservers have recognized a long time ago that if classic wants to stay around it either needs seasons (equivalent to new servers which pservers have all the time) or updates in some form.

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so…who else abandons games as soon as they don’t get content shovelled in as fast as Retail WoW does?

I know I still play quite a few games that haven’t seen new content in ages. Which ones? Let me list some:

Unmodded Skyrim, Grim Dawn (New expansion came out MONTHS ago, nothing since. OH NOES!), Titan Quest (Still running with only first expansion), Unmodded Fallout 3 & New Vegas, Skylanders Imaginators (nothing new since Activision abandoned it over a year ago), 20xx…

A game doesn’t need constant content shoved in to have excellent content worth playing so long as you enjoy it. Relish what you’re playing instead of stressing out over whether it will receive constant content.

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My ideal world would be new servers for TBC with the OPTION to pay/free transfer a level 60 off the current classic realms to the new TBC realms and play as if a new expansion just dropped. Not mandatory by any means, but an option.

No TBC servers is the worst idea I’ve ever heard.

Toxicity and immaturity caused them to leave

But where will they go? lol

Yep. You can open up a bc server but it needs to be separate from classic.

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That’s cool and all, but I don’t see Blizzard using their resources to develop brand new content for Classic instead of incorporating their ideas into Retail.

And honestly, I don’t want them to. I wouldn’t trust them to. Modern gameplay with all that comes with it is what this team is good at; look at Diablo 3 or retail WoW. That’s what they do.

The team who made vanilla WoW is gone, most don’t work for Blizzard anymore. I trust the current team to restore old content working from backups that exist, but not to make new content for the old game that feels like it belongs.

That’s not their thing, and that’s fine. I’m just glad they were willing to give us a choice between their game and the old one.

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Well all should be fine then because the Classic team is separate from the Retail team.

It won’t die out. There are thousands of things you can do in this game other than hit 60 and get purple colored items.

This content is for people like us. Not like you. You will get bored and move on, and honestly, that’s your problem chief.

I see no problem here personally.

EQ P99 is proof that you can keep players around for years and years and years with the same content.

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I’m looking forward to getting the set of PvP gear.

I want the last phase of Classic to come out with Naxxramas.

The “everyone will leave en masse once the game is no longer changing!” crowd…cannot leave soon enough for me. Feel free to tell yourself I surely quit playing when you did, if it gives you some weird ego boost.

I mean private servers have been going strong for years so who’s to say Classic would die out any time soon? We’re just getting started. That said I am definitely for a Classic+ experience with new BGs and Raids at level 60.

Well, I know Classic will need to ask me to leave if they decide to close it down. I do not plan to go anywhere else as I am done with the off the beaten path expansions.

That was Vanilla Wow.

Yes, that is exactly going to happen. Everyone won’t even get to Nax, or even BWL, or whatever.

Yes, but not for Classic Wow. They already said that. These stay Vanilla. They don’t become BC servers. Your characters don’t go to BC.

Everyone would still be just not playing anymore, starting a new character on the “Classic BC” server.

There might be those other server types people mentioned too, but your character and “Classic” will never move on to those.

From what I’ve heard, Private Servers would be like “Classic Vanilla +”? They have quality of life additions, or some of them do.

Beta phase 3, 4, open beta and then Vanilla release (around Nov. 24 2004?) was when I started. by 6 months, or something before:

January 16, 2007 Burning Crusade release

I was never going to log into Wow again, bored to tears of it. I was in stuff like Lord of the Rings Online beta, then the final game (if I remember correctly. ) Then I go the beta invite to BC, which I found to be FANTASTIC (copied my vanilla 60 Hunter over.) I stayed in that beta, for months, having a blast. I did not care that my progression was not saved, because I learned a lot about BC. I only logged into Vanilla, a couple of times, to wrap things up.

So figure something like 2 years for me, until I was just bored to tears and stagnating in Wow Vanilla.
I don’t think that was unusual, since the Uber guild I was in had also pretty much been done with the game by then ( I think they did Nax? Can’t recall, since they moved on to a different server.) They were playing Lord of the Rings Online with me, so they were no longer in Wow.

So it kind of makes me wonder, about “Classic” vanilla just lasting forever. Both the more casual me (60 NE Holy Priest, who could not fit into a raiding schedule), the even MORE casual alt of mine (60 NE Hunter, who did not raid), and the old Uber guild I was in, who went as far as Nax, I think, had all moved on by about 2 years.

My main 60 NE Holy Priest had gone as far in raiding as I could, on my work schedule. My “alt” 60 NE Hunter had gone as far as it could soloing. I made a couple alts, like a Gnome Warlock that got to 50 or so, but none stuck until this DK in Wrath :wink:

I did not do battlegrounds/the rare epic sets, on my Hunter, which is why I’m going to do that in Classic on the recreation of that Hunter.

Don’t see how its any different to buying a game that you know has a finish line. More about the journey and interacting with players along the way for me. Even if it means I lose interest after 2 years thats a good amount of time to stay entertained

I am fine with adding content to classic. Just leave the level cap at 60, do not make the previously earned reputations/recipes obsolete, and no new currencies. I guess add content/reputations/recipes but keep everything we worked hard for relevant and useful. That is some of what made the expansions a let down, especially the garrison/shipyard/followers/ whatever else that was implemented and obsoleted. And do not even think about flying or another cataclysmic event. Maybe suicide Sylvanis for the sake of the Horde.

I do not understand why people will not get to naxx 40. Why not. i mean just because a bunch of streamers complete it does not mean the casual crowd don’t want to anymore. I think that most people misunderstand what the casual player is vs the elite player. I do not think that casual players are any less interested in the content than the elite player. i just think, my point of view here as I am a casual player, is that the casual player is in no rush to see it .

Blizzard does not exactly have a good track record with developing new content. I would be very hesitant about letting them make new stuff.

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Literally wow classic has been advertised since day one as an authentic recreation of vanilla wow.

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