We can see rushing out Phase 2 without BGs caused a heavy and permanent blow to the game, didn’t it?
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…There was always supposed to be a wpvp phase.
The problem wasn’t rushing it. The problem is the casual players really hate the wpvp phase
Had they waited 3 months the result woulda been the same. Happened on p servers too. No one sane levels out in the world during wpvp phase
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I’m pretty casual, and I wish we would have had another month of P2.
Yea but were you 60? Looking at your gear your avatar you weren’t running around at level 52 in green healing gear.
Most “casuals” are not as far as you
The people i’m talking about we never met cuz they never finished leveling lol
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Rushing it absolutely magnified the issues it would bring for people and there was no good reason for it.
Funny, I’m the exact same rank and level that I would have been with or without Phase II 
I rerolled during P2:
I would have liked to enjoy more open world PVP while it was still a major thing. It was a scramble trying to get to 60 with the limited time I had.
You say rushing but I don’t see how anything would have changed had we waited 3 months and just kept farming MC over and over…Sounds like what you want is no wpvp phase.
That was never gonna happen. And yes no wpvp phase would have prob been better for the server. I’m not sure forcing us all to MC for months with no honor would ahve been
not really.
Well idk what fairbanks is like
But on stalagg, that woulda been a HUGE mistake unless u just did dungeons all day
You don’t see how wpvp would be different if more people were lvl60? A hell of a lot less people would have dropped the game. Sounds like you can’t read, having a wpvp phase is one thing, but doing it sooner than vanilla did when the majority of players were not 60 was foolish.
No one would have forced you to MC.
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Not much different from Stalagg. Those were my top two choices.
Yea but you’d have kept MC out and nothing to do. And lost just as many to that
THe reason they move quickly is cuz they see subs/retention dropping. You are vastly underestimating how sitting around in MC phase would have killed the game. People were in full BiS by time honor* released. A few more months of that and the dudes who you poured gear into will all quit or take a break til new content
Wrong. Dropping a game out of boredom and dropping a game out of frustration are two very different things. One is more neutral and can be solved by having more content, the other creates negative feelings associated with the developers and game, making it much less likely for that person to come back.
Unless you have some form of autism that shouldn’t have to be explained to you, it’s pretty common sense.
Citation needed. Not to mention even if that’s true, they lost a hell of a lot more people (which we can actually see the numbers of, and even see dead servers now like Flamelash) than if not.
No, you are vastly overestimating it due to in-group bias. It’s what you personally want so you overvalue it. Players with more investment in the game (aka lvl 60) are less likely than players with less investment (aka under 60s) along with what I explained at the top of this post.
PLEASE think before you post next time, I love correcting people like you but I’m not a teacher.
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P2 sucked and Im glad its gone, but rushing it out and rushing BGs didnt do much additional damage. Just the same damage it was going to cause in the long run sooner.
Im on yojamba and Phase 2 felt a little rushed even tho i just made it to 60 before it came out. What it did do was make brm off limits to me and many others on alliance. And thats an important area. We culd take it back for 30 mins or so with a raid but wuld eventially get stomped out anyway. The faction numbers at 60 were just overwhelmingly in favor of the horde. Had blizz waited a bit longer it may have helped the undrerepresented factions get some more 60s and geared up but who knows. Another option culdve been a bit more notice instead of the 10 days Ion gave at blizzcon. Something to think about for blizz maybe as they roll out the other stuff.
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In vanilla the honor system was released two months before battlegrounds. This wasn’t some haphazard rush job for classic, it was the plan all along. Many people believed this period to be the proverbial golden age of vanilla.
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The real answer was to implement rank rewards when the game released. WPvP phase and leveling phase should’ve happened simultaneously – but potentially limit rank gain to a maximum of rank 5.
MC availability should’ve been delayed until the release of battlegrounds, and AB should’ve been implemented at the same time as WSG and AV.
That could’ve happened within 1 or 2 months of release.
Alternatively:
Simply implement the full breadth of the PvP rank reward and battleground system at release in addition to MC.
Either one of these would’ve been superior to what happened.
Phase 2 was still put out earlier, so if they were going to rush that they should have also put in BGs along with it.
No, you are missing the point. For many people that period of world pvp is what they were looking forward to. They were never going to release bg’s and the honor system at the same time.
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