Correct me if i’m wrong, but weren’t tier sets being allowed in pvp one of the main reasons Slands was garbage for pvp? You have some classes where tier sets are godly, and others that are laughable. I thought a big selling point to pvp in dflight was that gear with tier sets were no longer going to be a thing?
The selling point was gear equalization.
SL had higher ilvl gear for higher rating which sucked to play against and to farm to upgrade.
You’re not wrong about tier sets though. If you got them luckily through vault you were ++ or else you’re behind. And some are good and others are trash.
BM and SV are super good. MM not so much at all (mm got dumpstered anyway losing dt for kill window).
Tier sets shouldn’t be in PvP IMO. I think it was a huge mistake for it to be allowed.
In fact it’s ruining my opinion of what started out as a great PvP expansion. Pvp gear should be conquest only. Tier set bonuses should be turned off in pvp.
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Or go back to the old way of pvp specific tiers that you just bought with the pieces of gear.
Was so much better and more fitting.
Of course the want to create a blend of content now so anyone can do anything, but that blend also has some terrible spillover of pve into pvp as always.
Spill over is fine
Assass rogues going From B tier to S plus tier cuz of the 4 set bonus isn’t okay.
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It’s never really worked out though.
Didn’t play tbc and was super noob in wotlk but wasn’t legendary weapon huge?
Cata - caster legendary, ds trinkets (cunning of the cruel, vial of shadows), gurthalak weapon, legendary daggers.
MoP I think was decent due to resil, but could be wrong.
Wod and legion I don’t remember and barely played.
BfA had goofy tank trinket in s2 for Jawah and the rest of plate players. Plus the whole corruption garbage.
Then SL with tier sets in s3 and 4 just like now.
Mop and the bits of wod I remember had pvp tier sets tht were worth it over pve gear, plus resil / pvp power or whatever it was called at that time.
Just saying that when pve spills over into pvp it usually sucks.
Just like you said sin being massively boosted by 4 set right now.
Or even bm hunters on TR showed how goofy mythic raid bow is for them.
I mean spill over as this.
PvP items can spill over into PvE, just at lower ilvl rate. That’s a balanced approach to spill over.
PvE items should be able to spill into PvP, but the set bonuses should be turned off. I have no problem with people using PVE as an entry into PvP , but PvP needs to be consistently normalized
Set bonuses destroy that philosophy.
In the past when trinkets were over the top in PvP they got nerfed. Set bonuses go against the whole philosophy of normalized PvP this xpac.
I don’t think we are in disagreement … im just saying this needs nerfed. Now. It’s not healthy.
OP trinkets and set bonuses don’t belong in PvP.
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