Just did the Ashbringer quest and Uther shows up. In fact Uther has shown up a lot over the years at his grave. How is this possible? Did the Kyrian’s give him a phone or something? They don’t seem like the type to let you go off and talk to your living relatives with all the, ‘forget your past life’ stuff.
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I agree, nerf demon hunters.
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Sometimes you need to work thru your past in order to forget about it.
Did you tell him there are troll Paladins now? Pretty sure he’s gonna rofl
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Could it be a “Time Traveller’s Wife” scenario kind of thing?
This didn’t seem like walking through his past life, it was more like, “Yo Max it’s your boy Uther, what up?”
Anyway, @OP… You ever heard of retcons? Blizzard uses them liberally.
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If they are retconning this I only want to have Bluether talk to me for now on.
So, how is Uther? Still dead? Or is he crystalized like Magni, in a “Keep it a secret from everybody” Legend of Zelda type of thing? If he’s still dead, ask him if he’s stuck in a continuous loop of Arthas impaling him or if he’s at rest? I really do wonder how he escaped the fate of Frostmourne, sometimes.
Probably when it exploded.
Ghosts don’t care about your theories
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The Shadowlands isn’t really that closed off from the living world. Both are fundamentally tied together. Souls are supposed to be eternally sent to their chosen realm, but magic is a way to disregard the normal laws and doesn’t care. That’s why through necromancy and various other ways our world is crawling with spirits and undead. Communing with the other side is totally doable.
In Uther’s case, the Light pulled his spirit back for a brief moment to talk to him. Afterwards he probably bounced back to Bastion again. I think it was more like pulling him up on a webcam for a quick chat, not completely yanking him back to Azeroth.
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This likely means that Blood Elf Paladin quest could be retconned as well.
You help a Blood Knight who was trained by Uther desecrate his grave, as he believes Uther fooled him into thinking The Light would save Quel’thalas.
Then Uther appears to him, gives him some of that Obi-wan advice, and The Blood Knight apologizes and strives for redemption.
Things like this are fairly commonplace in the Warcraft universe.
For example, Alodi. His spirit is bound to the Forge of the Guardian so that the Kirin Tor (or whoever) can talk to him and request guidance from the first Guardian.
There’s also Vol’jin, who was investigating his own death from beyond the grave. I mean, there may be some other stuff going on there, but still.
Then there’s everything with Odyn with the Halls of Valor and Helya with Helheim, and how the val’kyr intercept worthy Vrykul before they go to the Shadowlands.
Plus, there’s one rather large factor: Frostmourne. Uther never originally got to go to Shadowlands, Frostmourne claimed and imprisoned his soul. At least until Frostmourne was shattered, the only instances I can think of where he actually appeared was In Halls of Reflection, when he was able to temporarily “escape” and speak with us (once for Jaina/Sylvanas, once for the Quel’dalar questline).
So we already know that while the default place for every being who dies is the Shadowlands, it is possible to avoid going there. We don’t really know what happened to all of the freed souls from Frostmourne or what impact being imprisoned in the blade might have had.
TL;DR - who knows? I should probably get a life though.