So I heard you classic raiders require world buffs? Wtf

I haven’t played classic realms in a long time. I did hear how world buffs are mandatory for many raiding guilds. I thought the bosses and content was so trivial. How gamers these days are so ahead of gamers from the past. Why would you even need this?

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They’re not mandatory. The content is largely trivial, up until late AQ40 (debatable - with proper prepwork and coordination) and Naxx. Naxx is insanely expensive on consumables, and the fights can and often do require a lot of gold and time investment. World buffs aren’t absolutely necessary, but they provide a lot of breathing room.

If someone told you all Classic content was trivial, they lied to you. It still took a lot of prep work to clear even BWL, much less AQ40 (lots of melee + tanks with nature resist, lots of consumes, poison resistance elixirs, etc) and Naxx (all sorts of protection potions, frost resist sets, anti-venoms, and other consumes).

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You don’t need that at all. My guild cleared naxx back in vanilla without all that. Gamers are better these days yes?

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People can clear it without world buffs - but your guild didn’t clear Naxx without what I listed. Protection potions are all but required to avoid getting one shot by many mechanics, or just to straight up die to mechanics themselves - like Loatheb for example. Sapphiron will destroy raids without resist gear, potions, and other expensive consumables. People won’t be able to do enough damage without the consumes to out-DPS enrages, healer mana, or mechanics that force a time limit. We know this because people are doing more damage than ever, playing better than ever, and it still happens. Naxx does not give any wiggle room.

Anyone saying Naxx was cleared without any consumes in vanilla are lying.

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not needed no but people just like to be safe on patch and loeth. that’s all.

i think you are trying to help? but you are not

I’m immediately suspect of anyone who claims that they cleared Naxx at release on classic. I don’t believe you.

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i mean sure… most guilds in vanilla did not use world buffs to go into naxx…

then again. most guilds in vanilla did absolutely terrible in naxx as well. barely clearing more than a single wing.

Guilds today use world buffs because we actually want to clear everything in a single night. which a lot of guilds are doing now adays.

YoU dOnT NeEd WoRLd BuFFs

is like… the stupidest thing being said recently.

it’s like asking a world class sprinter to run without shoes.

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You can infact do all raiding content without world buffs. World buffs allow you to by pass many mechanic and require less skill, basic knowledge of boss mechanics

Unbuffed is a different story, it requires a team of 40 to work like clockwork

That’s great world buffed guilds can cheese through Naxx according to WCL. But real skill is based on unbuffed and teamwork.

In fact watching streams and comparing their guild WCL some guilds don’t include their wipes as if they’re ashamed, but you watched it on stream how many times they’ve wiped :man_shrugging:

The people demanding world buffs aren’t doing it because they need it to clear the content.

They’re getting them so they can epeen post about how fast their clears are.

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The average player and guild is largely over the world buff craze by this point because they realize that Naxx has a steep learning curve for the people that didn’t play the content for years on private servers, and that it can’t just be brute forced with world buffs.

Most raiding guilds are just happy to maintain their current rosters and/or be able to fill open raiding spots quickly enough right now, a lot of previous “mandatory” requirements aren’t taken so seriously right now because the pool of available raiders isn’t so bloated anymore.

It literally takes 5-10 minutes of play time to get wbuffs.

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Literally every guild that does naxx seriously shows up with world buffs because some bosses (patchwerk, loatheb, gothik, 4H, saph) are dramatically easier and cheaper for consumes with wb.

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Wrong. Lots of guilds will struggle terribly on 4H, saph, loatheb, patch without wbuffs. Loatheb and saph especially. wbuffs allow the thane burn strat on 4H which makes it much much easier. Do you even raid naxx? lol

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Do you? World buffs go away after one wipe. So unless those guilds are redoing every world buff every wipe on progression they are having to figure out how to kill them without world buffs. Or only doing 1 attempt per week…

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Skill is maximizing every available advantage. That includes world buffs. Literally everyone with skill gets them. You sound like one of these lazy people that rationalizes their laziness by saying being to lazy to get them = skill. It doesn’t. It takes 10 minutes to get them. Stop being lazy and a burden to your raid.

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Yeah, I’m 15/15 naxx. Lots of guilds go out and get world buffs for saph because they do get stuck without them. Including guilds that steamrolled everything AQ40 and before. Lots of guilds stop at loatheb and then come in fresh the second day with world buffs for that boss. You sound like someone who has a chip on their shoulder about wb but has obviously never actually done the content.

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Good luck killing loatheb and saph without consumes or world buffs.

You’re a liar.

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The second guild on my server to full clear Naxx(December 5th) cleared 15/15 with 0 world buffs so your statement is clearly false when you say “every.”

And I’ve never heard of someone getting world buffs just to save gold on consumables the expectation is that you stack everything possible together. World buffs also don’t take “5-10” minutes there are people that sit in Booty Bay for 45+ minutes waiting on just a Hakkar Heart to drop.

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World buff meta and so on is cancer and is a major reason why Classic lost interest.

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