…how are hunters right now?
You guys okay?
I asked this of the rogues (they seemed to be mostly fine), and it occurred to me that no one checks in on our pet friends.
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Petless spec needs work
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I do pretty well as a Bm hunter in the new raid, but sure about yhe other 2 specs though.
Well, BM is doing fine in almost all fronts from my experience, survival is working a bit better on PvP than PvE and MM sucks at both and lacks utility because in order to keep doing bellow mid-tier damage we have to give up our pets.
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Survival is crap…bring back ranged.
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Crap can mean many different things. What specifically is/are the issue(s)?
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I’m okay. Having fun with Surv. Great damage, movement, spells.
I do wish the polearms/spears had better position on your back. Most polearms/spears look like flag poles on toons back. Gross looking.
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It’s actually not crap. Those who say MSV is crap tend to have never actually played it and are just mad that RSV went the way it did. Those who say that RSV was crap are trolling Bepples because he cannot ever just leave it be making it easier to troll.
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thats literally my only SVH complaint
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It’s just that I would want Survival if it’s Range. There is too many melee classes right now. Survival doesnt offer much what other melees can offer.
And melee Survival is not popular in dungeon finder. Many would rather have DH or Rogue to their party. And Warriors and DKs are also there to compete with the melee spot.
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I always have a blast on my Surv Hunter. I dominant in both PvP and in my rank for DPS/mechanics followed in dungeons so far. I also have like 3 surv hunters so.
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Survival should be renamed and shipped off to Demon Hunters (swap out the pet for an enslaved demon, change some ability/talent names and graphics, but keep the effects, and you’re gtg).
Bring back the real Surv, and fix MM FFS (when I play my pvp firemage, I always think “this is what mm should feel like”).
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This so much seriously, it’s a win win for every one and it gives demon hunters another weapon to look cool and have fun with.
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Loved SV in legion, BFA SV is fine but seems clunky right now when i compare it to Ret or Frost Dk. Doubt I’ll go either of the ranged specs again though just due to my personal feelings and liking melee better but still loving my main as Hunter
MM is bad, BM and Survival are fine. As somebody that has always liked the lone ranger archer spec. I am missing cata MM for sure.
It’s not crap no.
Would I want it to be more about what the devs said that it would(melee). Yes.
But either way, many like the hybrid gameplay.
I don’t like that they took away my ranged SV spec. But that does not automatically mean that the new spec is crap.
I just don’t like it. But I would never demand it’s removal as that would create the same situation all over again.
Where those that like ranged SV, get what they want. But those that like MSV, do not.
Would agree here yes.
And taking away a ranged spec in favor of another melee, does not make sense.
They did it purely because someone really wanted to add in a melee option for the Hunter class.
But again, IMO, you should never remove an existing playstyle in favor of brining in a different one. This will ALWAYS upset part of the playerbase(those that like the existing/previous one).
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I am having fun on my two BMs, my NE and my Mag’har are both 120 and decently geared. There is not much my pet can handle, if he cant, then it was not meant to be.
Just remember that no one asked for MSV, especially at the cost of RSV. There is no reason to act like we did. It’s been over three years already. If people were actually that angry, why did they not hold Blues to their promise of getting the game play MM?
This is true. The decision to make a melee hunter spec was almost entirely on the devs.
Sure. Some players wanted a melee-option.
But mostly, some or someone within the dev team just really wanted to make a melee hunter spec. That’s all it was.
And like you said. Noone asked for RSV to be removed.
This was done as a result of the mindset that classes shouldn’t really have 4 spec options. No matter how much the playstyles would fit the class, fantasy-wise or gameplay-wise.
They chose SV because BM is essentially the spec that most players hold to be synonymous with the core fantasy of the class(Ranged weapon class with a pet).
MM just cannot be a melee spec. It just wouldn’t make sense.
This left them with SV being the only alternative.
Reasons vary here.
I’m not pushing for the MM route purely because there’s little they(devs) can do in order to give us the proper SV experience back through MM, without removing large chunks of the current MM design. And what it is intended to work like.
Trying to contain two different playstyles within one spec. It didn’t work well for Druids. Nor will it work well for any other spec. No matter what roles(tank/heal/dmg) the playstyles would include.
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No reason for some to act like we did, and your post read like it.
They chose SV because SV has historically been the Spec with melee abilities. In Vanilla MB, RS, WC were all in the SV Spellbook. People thought that BM should have been because of Rexxar. There is also a lot more to the Class Fantasy than Ranged Weapon with a pet. Look at how many Class Trainers have Melee Weapons when Classic rolls up for instance. Lor’themar uses a Sword most of the time, and he’s a Ranger (what most BE Hunters are supposed to be), both Tyrande and Shandris will use daggers/swords (both daggers and 1h swords have the model that they use), especially Shandris.
There was quite a bit that they could have done. ES and LnL could have easily made it that way. To me, that sounds more like a cop-out.
Got a better idea to get RSV back? ATM it’s probably the best way we have to get it.