So, how is Regeneratin' working out?

Well, any one of my trinkets is only responsible for about 2% of my DPS, so a racial that gives me a 1-2% boost is the equivalent of a 3rd trinket. Gamebreaking? No. But not nothing either.

Personally, I think Regeneratin’ was OP before the nerf, it was a 100% heal over 4 seconds with no ramp-up.

And as I said way up high in the thread, Dark Iron got their nerf as well.

So as far as the faction thing goes, we’re even on that score.

And instead NE has a passive racial that is always active, that troll does not. Of the 6 sims for racials across three mage specs, troll wins on three, ties on one, and loses on two to NE.

That’s not even remotely OP/

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Haymaker is much more useful imo

Now stuns are an actual useful racial. Haymaker is a blast if you get it off right.

Plus it offers the ability to launch significantly more afk 110 druids who’ve been ganking my damn rogue off the side of Thundertotem than almost any other racial.

Darkspear has a few nice passives too, like 10% increased health regeneration even during combat and Berserking is a 15% Haste boost on a 3 minute CD.

Quibble about the definition of “op”, but nobody cared a fig about Shadowmeld until about 3 months ago.

And trust me, papa Blizz has already gone on record saying that going forward Shadowmeld will be taken fully into account when designing affixes, so you’ll never have to worry about it again.

Heck, they even tried to give the Horde a TOY that replicated it.

Mate. Come on. Just stop.

12% for 10s. That’s really not that much. It’s only specifically strong for arcane.

For your gear, troll sims equal on pw and worse on HaC.

Well, except PvPers.

You seem to be trying to convince me that an aggro dump is better than a third trink, but I’m not buying it.

Same to ya.

The sims literally show that troll is better by less than half a percent, if not worse than NE for damage.

You tried to list the hp regen as mattering at all.

I only ever see it used by Zandalari paladins and it’s completely overpowered. Any paladin that could otherwise be 1v1’d is basically invincible. I’ve come to view Zandalari paladin players as elite NPCs to avoid because they’re a negative play experience.

Sims say hello that it isn’t that OP. Its the best race for arcane. By less than 1% dps. It is not the best race for either of the other specs which see more play than arcane.

Like for frost, the most popular spec BY FAR, it is in 5th place. Behind 3 alliance races that are in top 3. Goblin is in 4th.

Why are you comparing shadowmeld to berserking. You should be comparing berserking to the fat ball of stats you get for BEING a night elf.

If you are going to compare shadowmeld to something from troll it should be voodoo shuffle since they are both niche utility based with no throughput gain

It certainly does matter. Especially if you’re a class with no self-sustain (like Mage, for instance).

My Horde Mage is Darkspear. He’s only lvl 76 so far but I didn’t even have to think about it that hard.

And here’s the thing about SM- it’s only really “OP” for Reaping if the entire team are Nelves. The vast majority of people aren’t going to stack them like that simply because they can’t. They run with people who can run whether or not they happen to be a Night Elf.

Yeah, I can Shadowmeld and dump aggro on Reaping, but it’s not very useful if everyone else is already dead.

Only person on alliance that needs to be NE is the healer. Conveniently thats always a resto druid anyway. Everyone else can die and you just mass.

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I’m not Method and don’t get to be so selective about my team, and that’s true of most people.

And the bottom line is that it’s getting nerfed on the slick side because the developers have already stated that it will be “taken into account” in season 3.

No, it really doesn’t, HP regen is 1% per 2s. Troll regen out of combat is 1.1% per 2s. In combat, that’s only 0.11% of hp per 2s.

Assuming you have 250k, that’s 275 hp per 2s.

That’s 40k health healed over 5 minutes. Assuming that none of it is overhealing.

That’s 135 flat hps. That’s less than nothing.

Or, your healer, who is likely a druid due to them being by far the most popular right now, can be a a NE, run ahead, mass rez past the reaping. Same thing, still a time saver.

And if you really think the only value of SM in m+ is reaping, that’s, again, adorable.

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You’re trying to be insulting but I don’t care.

I’m just going to enjoy my supposed “OP” status for the reminder of Season 2, which is probably a few weeks at best.

Id personally love to be able to do death skips without needing a brez or a druid healer. Mainly looking at ones like the ones in motherlode.

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Ice Barrier, blazing barrier, prismatic barrier, Cauterizing blink, cauterize?

What?

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