I know the whole system is…well, not everyone’s favorite, but…why are all of Frost’s traits so garbage? I mean, the traits SPECIFICALLY for the spec, not the generic ones, those ones are at the top of the DPS picks. The Frost traits, however, are just plain awful. I mean…I like some of the ways those traits change or enhance rotations, I really do, but they are so terrible for raiding, and the one that was best, and that I REALLY liked (Glacial Contagion) was removed…for whatever reason? Because it wasn’t interactive enough? I loved having a second disease in Frost again, plus that it augmented Obliterate! Bonus, it was an amazing trait too! Now…Just the flavorless generic traits are best.
It seems like the only reason we’re ever going to use the Frost traits, EVER, is because we’re being forced to in the next raid tier, as they are the only choices on the fourth Azerite ring, and already, the most boring and passive one (Icy Citadel) is clearly the best one. I just feel like it wouldn’t be such a bad thing to buff these abysmal traits by a good bit to make them even SOMEWHAT competitive, because unless the generic trait is ungodly terrible, there’s no way you’d pick the Frost trait over it at this time.
Does our mastery increase the damage of Tidal Surge? Just looking for a decent pvp trait for frost…
Yes, Tidal Surge scales with our mastery. Icy Citadel and Battlefield Focus/Precision are also good for pvp.
I like my mini frostwyrm’s fury.
Meanwhile, UH has 1 good st trait and 2 aoe traits that are considered good. The rest is garbage crap.
I tried stacking the Killer Frost traits and they seem fine so far. Are they that bad or just that bad in comparison? Extra damage on Frost Strike for each weapon plus an additional 15% chance to proc Killing Machine? Sounds good on paper. If i can find 3 of the traits that increase Frost Strike when 3+ runes are on CD, that would be even bigger, but would just lose the +15% proc chance.
If you haven’t seen bloodmallet or herodamage, those websites rank all traits for all specs. Latent Chill and Killer Frost aren’t even as good as a regular Archive of the Titans, Rezan’s Fury or even Incite the Pack. Glacial Contagion used to be our top ST trait until Blizzard removed it for Frostwhelp’s Indignation, which is even worse than the aforementioned traits on ST.
One of the problems with killer frost is that 15% chance is only on your critical strikes. Should just be when frost strike deals damage at all.
Don’t gem mastery if you’re playing arena… Versatility is just better.
Yep, and never. Ever. Stack crit in pvp. It’s nerfed really hard.
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frozen tempest and echoing howl are both good for AOE as frost. Festermight is good for AOE and ST for unholy. Last surprise is hit or miss, depending on your timing and group damage, and helchains is also hit or miss, since sometimes your pet simply stands next to you when youre fighting, although i think this happens more in wpvp than any other time. Azerite traits in general were poorly conceived and poorly implemented, with the generic traits topping many of the class specific traits from the beginning. Thunderous Blast? Nerfed hard because it was so far ahead of everything else. It could have brought it to a mid level and left viable, but no. Nerfed to the bottom
Still better than BDK hahaha.