So can we finally admit that not having RDF killed Wrath Classic?

Then make the leveling guild for them. Dont wait for someone else to fix the issue, be the change you want to see. You want leveling to be better on your server make a leveling guild and get people to join.

I made the guilds for storage. You can make a leveling guild for your server if you want a keveling guild on your server. Be the change you want to see.

Which means someone IS waiting for ME to fix the issue.

You can stop quoting Gandhi - that doesn’t apply to this situation.

  1. What incentive is there for people to join when I have level 60+ characters levelling when they’re only level 20-30?
  2. How does this benefit anyone when there’s no one online at 3am?
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Everyone wants someone else to fix their issues these days… stop waiting for someone else to do it and do it yourself. Problem solved.

I’ll ask again. What does a guild filled with you and your alts do for sociability?

Also, can you please provide me with these guild/server names. Id like to see how many members you have :slight_smile:

…you don’t read what you type before replying… do you?

If I am to create a guild for OTHER PEOPLE, I need OTHER PEOPLE to help me. So, I am waiting on OTHER PEOPLE.

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Because they may find someone else that joins is lvl 20-30.

People play at different times, let the new guild members invite others and eventually the guild will have people from the 3 am crowd.

I made the guilds i have for bank storage. If you want a leveling guild on your server make one and invite others. I only mentioned my guilds to prove it wasnt all that hard to make a guild.

That’s like guilds saying, “We MIGHT have a raid spot for you in a bit.” People don’t join for that.

They sure do. However, if there’s no one on at 3am in the first place, how are we going to create people to be online after joining the guild?

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And again, it’s been proven that it IS difficult for new players to create guilds.

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Heaven forbid you have to talk to other people! Not like this is an mmorpg or anything. Oh wait.

Talking to people isn’t the problem. You said to stop waiting on people and fix the problem myself, when creating a guild literally requires other people’s assistance.

Can you tell me the guild/server name? Id like to see how many members you have :slight_smile:

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Odd, i have joined a guild as a bench member because it gave me a chance to get into a raid group.

Let the members invite others. If they find one person that plays at 3am like them, you now have 2 people in the guild that play at that time, and they may find another later.

Social connections dont all happen at once. It takes time to build all of them.

Again, i made them just for my personal banks. So they have 1 member. But if you make a guild for levelers, they will come with time.

Odd, it’s like you’ll say anything to contradict what I say. Odd.

You’re missing the ENTIRE point. If there is no one to find groups with at 3am, how are these people going to find any new members?

What’s your main’s name?

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Guilds grow over time. It wont happen over night, lets say you have someone that plays until 12am he invites someone that plays 1130pm to 230am. And this new person plays 200am to 500am. He invites someone that plays 300am to 600am.

It takes time, but thats how all social interactions work.

Alfavhunter whitemane. I am suprised drinkblink hasn’t revealed that with parses the moment you asked, he seems to like doing that.

And the only reason i am on a mega server is when they force closed smolderweb where i was origionally, thats where most of my friends went.

They also die over time if there’s not enough activity in them.

Let’s break this down…

We’re not using Discord, so we’re using Trade and LFG chat - the two more popular channels.

That means that my guild member would have to be within a city’s limits to use Trade chat for that full half an hour, which is detrimental to his or her experience. That would also require the hopeful invitee to be monitoring their LFG chat religiously since it’s often flooded with useless spam.

LOL - so, you can’t speak to the ease of finding groups, guilds, or creating either on low-population realms.

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So what youre saying is anecdotal at best as you’ve never actually created a successful leveling guild. Is this a correct assessment?

Which begs the question how do you know it works if you havent even tried it yourself? Maybe YOU should be the change you keep talking about

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