So blizz lets talk about destro

it is amazing that, you had manage to make destro so awful at the start of an expansion 3 times in a row, jesus christ i’m starting to think that you guys just don’t like the spec at all, the spec is useless half of the expa and then its OK/meh in 1 season, to end up being trash or broken the next one, you have 0 consistency balancing this spec

the current hotfix it’s just laughable, 6% aura buff it’s fine, 40% CDF is fine but it does not help because shadowburn its better, and 40% of 0 is still 0 im talking about rift.

im thinking that you don’t really care if the spec sees a bit of play or not, the buff were simple buff CB dmgs buff incinerate dmgs and confla because their dmgs it’s HORRENDOUS, RoF could use a 10% buff, but you just threw a random 6% aura buff and buff 2 useless spells OK thx now we are less trashy? we went from a complete joke to be cute THX

destro current state its atrocious, the spec is not good at anything, medicore aoe, horrendous single target, trash 2 target cleave jesus christ man how did u get it so wrong

you need to buff havoc duration, buff rolling havoc, buff burn to ashes and flash point these talents are just weak im not asking you to do it in a hotfix but god dammit you reworked a plethora of classes and leave destro dead in the water WHY? these changes are easy and would put the spec in a overall good spot why do you always treat destro as the bastard child of wow?

ALSO WHY IS OVERFIEND NOT CASTING CHAOS VOLLEY? AND WHY OVERFIEND CBS ARE SO WEAK MAN? our CB are weak yes but our pets bolts are even worse jesus christ
give me back my purple infernal if this is what i’m gonna have to deal with for the rest of my life

you cut infernal/avatar shard gem in half it was fine good change the charge generation was insane BUT WHAT ABOUT BUFFING OUR DMGS? WHAT ABOUT COMPENSATION? i’m ok being a machinegun of spells but right now i have a water gun with a half tank WHY ?

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blizzard hates us, nothing new. this is just how destro is.

If CB is going to hit like it currently does, Id prefer it go down to one shard…thats probably a controversial take.

That or buff its damage. That spell should hit like a truck…thats what made it fun. Its a nuke spec.

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5 bucks says Ion will do a filmed QnA with canned responses then come out with another legendary quote like:

“We don’t want you playing Destruction Warlock.”

Then give some braindead response about how in the past it was overperforming, and they just didn’t like the direction the spec took over the years, and how CB should not hit hard all the time…

Remember when that clown Ion thought it was a good idea to have our spells roll on our mastery with such highs and lows that your incinerate often hit harder than CB?

… and then he’ll say that they have a rework coming out for Destro that will be introduced in prepatch for next expansion.

Of course it will be an utter design travesty and disaster like the Demo rework was and it will make everyone hate the class.

(Demonwrath and Imps spawning on target? Felhunters actually jogging to the target??? Lololol)

Then Destro will go through TWW2 being in a near unplayable state until maybe halfway through or 2/3rds when Ion finally secretly calls Xelnath from his private bathroom crying and asking him for help in making Destro great again.

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Tbh I like that you don’t have to hardcast CB in order to do dmg.

Now its kinda weird to have DoT effect as your main dmg output, but the fact is against zug-zug classes such as DK, Warr, Monk, Rogue being able to do instant damage is nice addition.

But I agree CB should be doing more dmg imo, also I would like to see Entrenched in Flame being again PvP option ( replacement for the Curse of Exhaustion ) even tho I can do damage vs melees I think its unfair to only have one slow on global CD when melees also have insane slows on top of tons of gap closers.

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Is it really that bad max level? I’m two shotting mobs while leveling, and the gameplay itself is the most fun I’ve had leveling in many years. I’ll be maining this spec regardless, just curious if this is a low damage issue popping up later on.

I guess blizzard has a contractual obligation to make Destro top DPS for locks

would be better than having the obligation to make it the worse one every single teir

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I doubt a 6% buff is going to take Destro from zero to hero but anything helps

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Well,
6% aura is NOT changing anything for destro.
No one has nor will they start taking rift.
The other one is just eh.
The only reason why blizz bluffed these talents was bc EVERYONE is completely on the left side of the talent tree. Not bc they thibk destro needs help. They think its only 6% behind.

For demo, 15% on primary pet is nice but antidotal. The other buffs are so inconsequential that they are not worth mentioning.

The real winner is aff getting wither added to mastery. Its about a 5-6% buff, but aff is not in the garbage can like the other two. However, it does push hc over sh in all instances.

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Agree with all of this

Just IMO but they have the blue print for how Destro should be. It was MOP.

It was simple yet had to pay attention to be really good at. It was good in the challenge modes which translates to M+. It was good in raids. It made Warlocks a priority in PVP because we were dangerous. A missed CB interrupt mattered.

Destro in its current form is actually reasonably close to this… Shadowburn is back. We just need CB to matter again and better AOE.

I dont think either of the above are inappropriate asks.

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Just chiming in to agree that destro is PATHETIC atm. Doesnt matter how much gear I get, doesnt matter if I upgrade it, doesnt matter if I follow every possible variation of the cookie cutter spec, still at the very bottom of the Details/Recount chart, below tanks and healers, without dying, without downtime.

I was so very looking forward to make this guy my main this exp, but I’m already leveling everything else to see what is actually rewarding to play.

Also, wtf does Grimoire of Sacrifice mean with “sometimes you do more shadow damage”. What is “sometimes”? 50% of the time? 10? 5? And how much shadow damage? Where can I see this proc?

Seriously, Blizz.

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It is low damage in end game content yes. You are right though. Gameplay wise is great.

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Can you link the source plz? Can’t seem to find it.

Hope we get the buffs we need by the time I need it, lol. Gonna focus on professions and slow down a bit.

its part of the 11.0.5 patch notes, not in the recent hotfix. These will go live around Oct-Nov, so its not anytime soon.

Careful now. Don’t mention Xelnaths work on our design unless you want Ion to sneak into your house at night and pee in your milk jugs .

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Destro has been good for the last 2 xpacks, so they start slow but scale well and buffed often. Unlike Aff that was last good in S1 BFA , then ignored for years.

Blizzard will never let Destro be left behind. It will get its love soon.

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destro has been trash since the last seasons of SL , it only good 1 DF season and it was only in M+, we are at best mid of the pack in raid since them and again it was only for 1 season them we were like the worse dps spec for raiding

Its more then Aff had, Destro was broken in SL M+, Destro seen a heck of a lot more play in DF than Aff. People just want that sweet S4 deeps they had in DF

So if Destro was mid, Aff was gutter dogchit.