So are they going to make essences account bound yet?

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It’s already bad enough for multi spec classes to have to grind out essences, like the Rustbolt one, we need 64 crates for the 3 essences and something like 27 oscillators.

Times that by 2 for a standard dual spec class, than 3 times for a paladin and druid and well now, you are never going to get another spec going to their full potential. Add in that some of us have 2-3 alts to play with and now you are facing the real worries of doing nothing but farm essences.

I am now trying to get my priest and DK up to scratch, that is now 4 more of every essence, take away the ones I won’t use and the ones that are quite bad, no PVP and I might have 6 months of part time farming to get them all.

First AZ traits, than reforge costs, now this. You made off spec farming hard enough, but than alt farming was a pain and now thanks a lot for ruining alts for us with essences.

I like the idea of AZ traits, I like the idea of essences, but I don’t like the idea of having to farm them over and over for each spec and alt and alt spec.

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no, but hey here’s another store mount

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Account bound essenses! Steve Harvey looks at the giant screen

:x:

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It would be at this point the best change I can think off aside from sorting their rubbish RNG.

I know they want us to stay farming, they gave us a HoA that went to level 50 and we rebelled, so they changed it and we all thought “Hooray, something good is coming”, than we seen the price of having that change, not just AZ farming, but now essence farming put on top of that.

Instead of making a good change they just added 3 more layers of farming onto an already never ending farm.

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We won’t see a change till 8.2.5 at the earliest, but most like still won’t be account wide. They just lessen the requirements for essences we’ve already unlocked. Maybe.

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No people haven’t complained enough yet - go and make another 100 threads on this subject for them to ignore whilst they are getting ready for classic release.

Seriously, if they do this I can’t see them changing things prior to next patch (which is probably what they intended anyway).

It doesn’t take much to get these either if you work on them for an hour a day (which gives you enough time to progress 3 alts btw).

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There hasn’t been even a whisper of making them account bound from Blizzard and I honestly do think they ever will. They view them as “character” progress and not something that should be shared account wide. Unless you are something like Method, the vast majority of alts won’t need any level 3 essences to defeat content. Hell I bet the vast majority of mains don’t even have level 3 ones unlocked yet.

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An hour a day per alt if you are fast.

Need to run an M4/7. Assuming you have 400 iLVL alts you need to run enough dungeon to get up to high enough iLVL to get to a +7. Even at 410-415 you still won’t easily find a pug group that will accept you, having enough alts and it will be tough to find guildies with a +7 to hitch onto.

Oscillators are one a day minimum, that almost a month per alt for rank 3 just doing the minimum in Mecha @ around 30 minutes per day at best.

That’s 2 essences only and we are looking at 1-1.5 hours already for just one alt in one day. This is not including the raid essence, any PVP essence, any HoA level farming for the crucible ranks, no IE farm.

And that is for one alt for mostly one spec. Am I missing anything? The worst is farming the raid essence per spec, the healing one is absolutely rubbish, especially for M+, but you have the tank and DPS one which you need 653 of the chance drop items per, so roughly 10 heroic boss kills each essence which can equate to around 4-5 heroic clears PER ALT.

An hour a day will give you enough time to farm rep, mana pearls and spare parts just for one alt to be able to get the required stuff for each essence, and benthic gear if you want to raid.

And unlike just having some missing gear, having missing essences puts you well behind the 8 ball in terms of performance, if players start finding ways to inspect your essences, both equipped and obtained, you will find yourself struggling to find a group. Much like taking a lower iLVL player with a higher IO, it’s much better to take someone with a lower iLVL and IO if they have the right essences and ranks.

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No. I don’t even take an hour for 3. I timed it one day and 8 minutes for each area. I try not to do mechagon right after reset but rather early morning.

so do a 10 instead.

you can’t count gear in your time farming for essences and other than spare parts you get enough pearls just with leveling up your follower and doing a couple of wq a day. The spare parts probably aren’t an issue if on the fill in the bar day you do the dailies instead of just looting chests either but regardless - one hour of farming in there in addition.

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Did you even read what I wrote or??

Let’s assume you are 400 iLVL, like I wrote above, or even 415 iLVL, how are you going to do an M10?

At worst you can pay for a run, at best you can get guildies to carry you. In between it’s a risk with pugs, as DPS they won’t take you, there will be 50 other DPS with better creds than you, as tank or healer they definitely won’t take you. Generally they will have the iLVL requirements set higher than you can even see.

So I’ll ask again, on an alt who is not geared, how can you run a 10? Or a 7? You need to gear up on some alts in order to get into the 7 required, and than farm each week for the rank 3.

An hour a day will get you the bare essentials of Mecha and Naz daily farming, not including doing any dungeons, not including any raids, not including spare part farming since you need 15,000 per character, per spec.

If you are not geared enough for an M7, an hour a day will eventually get you enough oscillators, parts and pearls for all the rep essences and without any additional HoA farming you will never hit the levels needed to get your higher rank crucibles.

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If you were playing your alts you wouldn’t be ilvl 400. People were claiming that they can’t play their alts now because they need the BEST essences to be competitive. Well that doesn’t make sense if your alts are only ilvl 400 because that means you weren’t playing them before or you weren’t competitive before.

Sure for three characters. Don’t waste your time trying to do all the quests in those areas - just do the most time efficient ones.

I get the feeling you figure you should have all essences for all specs of a character within a month. Of course, it is going to take more time per day if you are rushing things. However, that is your choice - play efficiently and take longer or play inefficiently and get them all faster.

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400 iLVL before was heroic raid geared, 415, which I also mentioned and you didn’t, was M10/mythic raid geared. Right now I am just starting to gear my second alt this patch, sitting 414 iLVL (priest) with around 2 days work having done 5 M+ and zero raids, my other alt is 417 (DK) and has done no work aside from the intro quests this patch.

I have struggled so far on my priest to find a group above a +4 aside from the one run I done with my guild that I was lucky enough to get into. Players won’t take me because there are X number of other healers they know they can find if they wait long enough.

At this iLVL players start thinking I don’t have the gear, I don’t have the experience, I don’t have the essences. So far no one at a +7 or higher pug will take me, therefore I can only hope I find someone in my guild who has a lowish key that we can time, keep doing even lower keys until I am geared, or run with my guild on our Friday heroic runs.

It’s not about being efficient, nor is it about getting all the essences, but being able to successfully time a +10 this season with the extra difficulty, being able to pull your weight in a raid, it is best to get at least rank 2 of some essences at HoA level 55 or higher when you are pugging.

Even on my rogue at 440 iLVL with all PVE rank 3 essences in a guild run of around the same players we struggle to time a +15.

Now before you say it, if you are going to say it, like a lot of people here on the forums, timing a +15 according to sites that list times of runs, is top two percentile of all runs so far this season.

TWO PERCENT.

You need to be in a run that ranks top 2% in the entirety of all M+ runs to be able to time a +15. I get it, some people find +15’s easy at my iLVL, some people have no issues and come here acting all high and mighty and trying to talk down players like me and saying how bad I am.

But just because some find it easy does not mean we are all top 2% capable.

~60,000 runs are timed for a +15 TOTAL out of 2.9 MILLION runs ranked so far.

Now think about how it is for someone at 415 iLVL, it’s in the same boat, trying to time a +10 will be just as hard, you need to see it not from the top, but from the bottom up. There are a ton more bad players than there are good. But let me reword that, there are very few players who sit in the top echelon of wow players that they forget just how average the average player is.

So if you want to pug, you need iLVL, you need essences. Even trying for guild runs, you unless it is an east week and this week is certainly not easy, you need gear.

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What are you talking about R4s on your alts ??? In case you aren’t aware you never need to do anything more than a mythic plus 7 to get a R3.

I guess I am glad I am in a good guild and none of this is a problem.

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I never said anything about R4’s?

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What are you talking about 15s then.

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If you are not going to bother reading all that I am writing, why are you here? You sound just like the rest of the elitest forum goers who ignore 90% of what is written, take what you want and put it completely out of context.

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Still not sure where +15s came from.

Nothing related to essences, except the cosmetic, involves timing anything higher than a +7.

And thats plenty doable at 415.

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If you didn’t waste people’s time with a bunch of not related stuff maybe they would read your posts entirely.