That’s why I team up with my fiance for tanking dungeons. They’re a healer and I start every run with “I operate on the you spank it you tank it mentality. You’ll also be on your own for heals. Let’s do this!”
They always think I’m joking until the first death.
Every tank I know has either switched specs, moved to another class, or outright quit the game. The vast majority of them push high keys and/or had the raid on farm since quite early on. Of them, only two said it was just because they were bored/waiting for content/etc. The majority flat out said they don’t enjoy tanking in its present state. I really can’t blame them. I’ve stopped tanking as well. It’s really just a miserable experience.
The present state of affairs is most definitely felt far more acutely in lower end content, but it’s having an effect across the board.
I’m 6’2”.
Shorty.
If you want a tank on your team you better go buy Darktide because that’s the only game with continuing content updates where the tanks aren’t tired of the constant whining out of the DPS that I can think of.
Give it three weeks if you send this crowd over there.
how would this balance out for the mobs if the player groups suddenly get a lot more damage generators on thier side? Would they now all have insane amounts of hitpoints or damage increased a lot so all these extra DPS are forced to focus fire to get enemy numbers down before tank gets overwhelmed?
It might be interesting to see how this would play out.
or it might just turn into a poop-show.
All dungeons entering m+ pool at the start of season go through several tuning passes and a ptr.
But it stands to reason that if on average your tanks does x dps, your healer does y dps and your dps does z dps then you’d want to increase mob health by a factor of (x+y+4z)/(x+y+3z).
Then its not a dungeon, you’re just back to raids. Inviting more DPS space will still result in the same problem there are just too many DPS players and that will only draw in more DPS.
No raids and dungeons are different independently of the group size.
That’s not true. There are some tanks who’d switch to dps because the wait times for dps to get a group decreased but wait times for dps will still decrease.
And more players playing their preferred role is a win.
crack whip Faster, Faster! 
Everything you posted is wrong.
No, they don’t. DPS get in the way by trying to pull “for” the tank. Healers get upset if the tank goes too fast. Add DPS pulling with a healer that can’t keep up, and you have a huge problem that always gets put on the tank.
No one is saying “tanks are a one man show”, that is gaslighting.
No. Youre not part of this conversation for this reason:
This doesnt happen in the things were discussing. Go back to your Heroic dungeon and time walking which is not part of the discussion.
People want tanks to be a one man show because thats how they were in DF for 2 seasons. Again, things you know not of and therefor shouldnt participate in said conversations
Nothing you said is true.
Repeating that line doesn’t make it true lol the more you say it, the lower the value of it goes (if it can go negative that is).
Do tell us, how many +10 keys have you run where the DPS are pulling for the tanks?
Yet again Grizzle has no idea what is going on and so, attempts to shift the discussion. You need to touch grass kid. Everything you are saying is wrong.
Am inclined to point out that in blitz atm, MW monks are the preferred fc, even when a Guardian druid is in the game with them, because most tanks are just so bad atm.
The first step to fixing the tank population is to make them fun and viable in all forms of content.
This isn’t attempting to shift the discussion, this is asking for your credibility to know if you know what’s going on. Lol again, referring to dps pulling for tanks shows that you clearly have no idea of the discussion at hand.
Again, please tell us how many M+ keys you’ve run where the DPS are pulling for tanks
It doesn’t matter what my experience is because you’ll just dismiss it and say “that’s not how it is, that doesn’t happen”. That’s what you’ve been doing throughout this thread. It’s what you do on every thread where you disagree (which is 99% of the threads you are in).
You’re a troll and honestly, you should be banned from the forums. Nothing you post furthers discussion, it just serves to incite argument. Your a crap person and must live a sad existence for this to be your outlet.
It does matter, because if you were doing the content that this discussion was around, you’d realize dps don’t pull for tanks in the context of this discussion. But since you’ve never done that content, you don’t know what you’re talking about, therefore your points are invalidated.
Again, this isn’t about your queued content.
Oofta, that projection hits hard
This may help you out.