That’s the only way to get the Rend buff as ally? Get mc’ed by a horde alt on another account? All serious raiders actually do this? Seems really lame- now I understand why everyone wanted Stormrend so bad.
Does the toon have to be 60 or will, say, a level 35 horde still be able to use and hit a 60 ally with gnomish mind control cap?
Well Phase Seven might be the sweatiest Alliance guild and according to what I’m reading on the logs only 33 people had the rend buff. 7 did not. This was a 46 minute clear, which if not the world record is still really fast.
https://vanilla.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7bTac43Rf8dFKgwD#fight=1&type=auras
So unless I’m interpreting those logs incorrectly, no not everyone is getting it even in the sweatiest of guilds.
Nobody NEEDS to do this. Only obsessive compulsive people that feel like they have to get every possible bonus they can, in order to clear easy content 2 minutes faster.
Absolutely agreed, people place way too much importance on buffs
Yes that’s how Alliance get WCB. It doesn’t necessarily need to be an alt. You can pay other people or have friends help you out with it.
It’s not necessary at all, but as a melee it’s really fun to have. It’s mostly for speed running and if you’re trying to parse well. I can’t imagine many guilds require it.
I think there is a reduced chance to MC if you’re lower level. I’m not sure about MCC, but I would think it would work the same.
Seems like Classic flavor to me.
And obviously optional.
I could see the argument for just disallowing certain buffs, but if there’s a demand or perceived need for this, WCLs could implement it, since the parse culture is “player driven,” not a Blizzard specific thing to enforce.
If you mean warcraftlogs should invalidate logs, no I don’t think they should ever do that. Who are they to dictate what is acceptable in the meta? I think it’s obnoxious that they decided the silithist buff from turning in sand in Silithus invalidates logs. It’s obnoxious that they invalidate logs for not killing enough ghouls in Naxxramas. Invalidating logs is obnoxious and I hate hearing about how we have to kill an additional trash pack so our logs can be valid. It’s irritating and shouldn’t be a thing.
I mean that they have in the past, and likely will again if there’s a legitimate reason to. And that was intended to be an obvious allusion to the current state of them having not.
Who? Well they are the ones who do the design, development and maintenance of warcraftlogs. If you or anyone doesn’t like what they are doing, you don’t have to use them, and you’re more than welcome to compete with them for whatever market share they currently have.
Really silly thing to say about a monopoly.
lol. Bro, I what a cope!
“I don’t like the way things are and I’m doing absolutely nothing about it.”
“Oh and challenge me on that and I’ll drop excuses that don’t even make sense.”
OK
Right. I’ll just go hire a team of software engineers and go build an entire website real quick. I should have thought of that before! Brb!
Well there ya go. Who are they to dictate how their own site and app that they spent time, money, and resources to develop works?
Because that’s what you’ve asked.
That’s not what I asked. And the question was rhetorical. They shouldn’t dictate the meta. They should present the data without trying to impact the meta. I don’t care that they hold the cards because it’s their business. I’m just expressing my opinion.
The buff from turning in diamond flask quest is far harder to get than rend.
And both are totally optional on alliance unless one needs to top dps or tank for big pumpers.
Isn’t it?
Yeah, that’s fair.
Why shouldn’t they? They see and analyze the data. And players choose to use it (mostly) for free!
Well sure. But this was my point about feeling free to compete. Anyone who cares can spend the time, effort, resources, whatever to do a better job if they feel they can.
Obviously the people behind warcraftlogs have spent that time, presumably because it is something they care enough about to have grown it to what is has become, and that is a pretty darned good reason that they “should” be able to dictate such things, imo.
Well I don’t think they should because I think that’s an irresponsible use of the power they hold over WoW players. I think it is an abuse of that power. It just seems wrong to me that raid leaders are making non-optimal decisions in Naxxramas for no other reason than they want their logs to be valid. It’s like they’re making new rules to a game that isn’t theirs. And again, just my opinion.
Who is the DMV to dictate what’s on my driving test.
I think it goes both ways. I hear what you’re saying, but I’m a little mixed on my opinion towards that.
On the one hand, they have earned whatever right they have to dictate the usage of their own property by virtue of having created it, and are offering it as a service.
And on the other hand, if they ever make controversial choices that enough people disagree with, the community (or literally anyone) can come up with competing “products.”
Except it would be more like, “Who is the DMV to dictate what car I’m allowed to drive?” Or perhaps, “Who is the DMV to tell me what materials my garage needs to be made of?”
I think it would be more like a private insurance provider dictating the terms of their services. And to a large extent, it’s fine for them to do so. If you don’t like it, you can go somewhere else, or make a competing insurance company.