SL is Unsalvageable, Just #PullThePlug and Move On

SL is the most detached MMO experience I ever seen in a game. Everything from the zones, too leveling after 50 to World Quest feels bad. Everything in SL is compartmentalized making the game feel shallow. Leveling in this game up to 50 is great with Chromie time but once you hit 50 the game and MMO ends. Welcome to Shadowlands.

9.1.5 isn’t going to fix anything because Systemlands is fundamentally wrong at it’s core design. There is no #Pulltheripcord that will fix it, just #Pulltheplug and let this expansion go and dedicate resources to a new expansion. Live and learn on why SL is the worst expansion by a large margin.

I am not trying to bash SL or be harsh but just tell the hard cold truth. I say this because don’t waste time on something that can never be good! There is just no conceivable way to fix this expansion. You were warned in Alpha about Covenants, soulbinds and conduits. Just let Zovaal snap his finger and erase everything that happened. The zones, the maw, torghast. All of it and let us never return.

From PvP to PvE everything is unfixable. I could ramble on about what is wrong but there are countless threads already with 1,000s of upvotes that you haven’t responded too. Not even a comment saying yea that makes sense or no we don’t want to do that, just silence.

I leveled up a new character and once I got to 50 I felt sad. I knew what was next. Can I go back? 8.3 BFA was a superior product than SL in every way. Don’t get me wrong BFA got off too a rough start but every 2-3 months there was a patch that made great improvements.

Honestly for what it is worth the Essence system is the best system you ever made, acquiring the essences was a nightmare but the system itself was fantastic. You had basically a glyph system from WotLK where you could customize builds freely at any time. Then in SL you removed it. You removed the only thing you got really right in the last few years to introduce the most convoluted detached systems ever put into an MMORPG.

I know you are trying to win us back but you can’t. You made your bed and now have to lay in it. I would recommend apologizing for SL and the pain and heartache you inflicted on a community that obviously love World of Warcraft. Then just work on the next expansion. Don’t even try 9.2. Just get rid of everything associated with SL with a Zovaal snap. Let him recreate reality as he sees fit and let it be a reality without SL.

Just learn from your mistakes and never make an expansion like SL again. Don’t create a compartmentalized game with detached zones. Don’t gate-keep gear with endless RNG and resource grinds. Don’t have ranks on gear that require rating to upgrade! Just give us Valor and Conquest and let us buy BiS gear at the vendor. Remove the toxic great vault!

M+ and Arena should be only for Titles, Mount and Seasonal Cosmetics. There should be ZERO gear rewarded from them. Fix the game by removing SL have a hard reset. I wish you luck, you have a lot of work to do.

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Why do you think that they would do better? And do you realize that pulling the plug on a second bad expansion in a row would cause them to lose a lot of players permanently?

I paid for an expansion. And I want a good expansion. If they don’t give me that, then I won’t be buying another one.

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4/10 bait. Lots of words, but the same tired GD troll topic.

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You’re free to leave and wait for the next expansion while I enjoy the game.

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Remove weekly chest it’s super toxic and that causes tons of problems that make people uninstall. Myself and friends have uninstalled because of this toxic feature and some are reluctant to come back because of it.

Remove ranks on gear, the gearing process doesn’t need to be complicated you have Heroic and Epic quality loot. If you have Valor you should go too the Valor vendor and buy 252 gear. If you have Raid badges you should go to the Badge vendor and buy trinkets or sets. If you have Conquest you should go to the PvP vendor and buy BiS PvP gear.

Don’t have super detached zones, BFA felt better as the Zones all worked together and you could fly to each zone. The world felt like a world and an MMO. In SL im always on a Flight path through some zone trying to get to these detached zones. Then the Maw and Korthia are also terrible.

Do you need more? I think that is a good start.

They lost players permanently already because SL is way way worse than BFA and it took 8 months to release 9.1 and it didn’t fix anything from 9.0.

Lets look forward and 9.1.5 still fixes nothing except ease up on is intolerable chores a tiny bit? The game still suffers from immense unfixable design issues. Will 9.2 fix it? No, the systems are bad and the overall design of SL is bad.

#Pulltheplug and move on and never do anything like SL again.

SL will never be good though. Sometimes you got to take a loss. We both did here Blizz and the players are taking a loss on this one. I actually miss 8.3 BFA right now because I realize SL will never be that good and BFA wasn’t a great expansion. It’s time to move on.

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Yeah…auto troll. If you have uninstalled the game why are you still here except to stir the pot?

If I were to unsub I would simply leave.

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There aren’t many of you that enjoy SL and it would be great if they can just move it along now too the next expansion and try to win back the millions that left and feel betrayed by the atrocity that is SL.

People thought they were getting a redemption expansion but got something worse.

Objectively SL is the worst expansion by a large margin with no real fixes in sight. Which is why I say move on because SL is unfixable because of it’s core design philosophy. It’s a bad MMO and the Devs made clear mistakes by creating it.

This is my best constructive feed back I can give the Devs. Don’t waste resources on something that won’t bring the players back. Let everyone enjoy the other games they moved onto and create a new Expansion to try and win them back.

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Ya I was done with shadowlands halfway through 9.0

I don’t care for the jailer or slyvanas.

Just make 9.2 the wrap up and announce the next expac to try to get people excited again.

Shadowlands is a failure learn from your mistakes and move on.

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To make the game better. Make no mistake I would love to have a World of Warcraft that can be enjoyed by millions again. We have a lot of work to do though for that to happen.

If nothing changes then nothing changes. Unfortunately for this game to be good again everything has to change and I hope Blizz is up to this monumental challenge.

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It’s cute you actually think your opinion rules over everyone’s. Keep it coming.

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Do you actually play wow at all, or do you just stay subbed to make doom posts on the forums about how crap the game is?

I’ve lost count on how many threads you’ve made about the exact same thing

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You literally have no way to gauge that.

I want them to fix THIS expansion and make it better FIRST. I paid for this product. While I enjoy it, it CAN be better and they have an obligation to fix the problems, otherwise, they COULD lose more business, including my own.

You also have no way to know they lost “millions” because the game was “atrocious” in its current form and that they need to “win those people back”.

People have likely left because of other reasons as well and you can’t say any “majority” of them are for any specific reason unless you have access to some mass survey we don’t know about.

The main thing I want to see from SL at this point is a resolution to the Sylvanas storyline. They chose to double down on it, I want them to finish it and move on, hopefully back to Azeroth and deal with the consequences of ALL the nonsense that has happened since Cataclysm.

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I was almost kinda feeling your vibe until this part.^^^ Almost…

Like yeah, if you enjoy Arena or M+, find another game? Lol?

Are you suggesting back to raid or die for gears and fun such?

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If they can’t make this expansion good, why in the fish do you think making a different one would be good?

Note: I don’t think it is bad, just this thought process makes zero sense.

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Abomb is a known troll guys, don’t feed the trolls.

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Feel free to feed me, I am hungry.

You do know what objectively means right. It isn’t opinion based it’s using sound logic to come to a non bias conclusion. Whether you actually do like SL or not that doesn’t change the fact that objectively SL is a horrific expansion.

You could like a movie but objectively it’s a bad movie and got 1 star because of it. Then it flopped at the box office because despite you liking it… guess what. It’s a bad movie. Just like SL is the worst expansion. Your feeling don’t change what is fact and that is why SL has the largest player dip of ANY expansion. Which is a clear sign to just pull the plug.

WoD was a vastly superior expansion compared to SL and they pulled the plug on that. So why not do it too SL and try to make a good expansion that the fans deserve.

If only Grumbles was around, he’d feed you a cookie.

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Yes, and you’re using the word incorrectly. You’re so adorable.

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We know what objective means, it is you that doesn’t seem to know.

Hint: It’s not “I think it’s bad so it is objectively bad.” Whether someone likes an expansion or not is entirely subjective.

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