SL Beta CPU test (10th gen Intel vs Ryzen 5K)

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Doesn’t matter what CPU you buy these days. WoW will run fine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6YBdUhY6Fo

All tests with griffin runs.

At stock the 5800X is king of the CPU hill.

Golden sample 10900k maxed out OC (5.3Ghz, 5Ghz ring) with heavily tweaked 4600Mhz CL 17 RAM is similar in performance to 5800x maxed OC (5.2Ghz) at 3800Mhz CL16 RAM. Mere mortals won’t see this kind of performance.

5800x OC is hard to cool (in this case he tested with LN2) so it’s not worth the effort/price of custom loop. Perf more easily obtainable by getting better RAM. He doesn’t include in his video but the 5800X doesn’t get high quality chiplets at this time so his desire to get high OC RAM won’t happen for awhile.

Based on this data I’m speculating a golden 5800x with the upcoming RAM will probably take perf crown in everything expect large scale PVP. Ashran and TM will love the 10900K more until Rocket Lake comes in and sweeps the top crown.

The 5900x and 5950x are not worth buying for WoW. If you want/need these for large scale PVP, it’s better to buy Intel at this time.

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For your convenience

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Credit to Swiftydruid on these forums. He’s provided a lot of good initial info confirmed by the Youtube presenter.

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I think you’re right about mere mortals…rarely does anyone buy RAM that fast, it’s just so expensive.

Most people are going to be on 3200 or 3600 kits with modest latency.

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He’s going though different 3800Mhz RAM sticks to find the tiniest bit of performance he can bleed. Most of us aren’t going to spend thousands of dollars to find the right RAM stick to get us from 150fps to 152fps.

I love his work but man, I’m glad he’s going through the pain and not me.

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Lol right?

I spent some small amount of time trying to OC my 3200mhz kits

Ultimately I wasn’t able to without relaxing timings, got to 3600mhz, found no actual benefit (actual detriment in some cases), so I just left it at XMP again.

He also deserves credit for being the only youtuber to even test WoW so comprehensively. So for that, he has my sub.

Big Head is good too, but man this guy’s got his hands on a lot more hardware to sample.

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Waiting for my Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master BIOS before I can tune my RAM to 4000. Still in beta form. It crashes when i touch FCLK.

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To me the impressive part is even a basic i3-10100 setup is avg 90FPS and staying above 70FPS at lows. I hear a lot of complaints in icecrown chat with latency issues when rare fights begin but I wonder how much of that is really latency and how much of it is the hardware in use. MY FPS does get cut in half at the start of the fight but still I’m above 55FPS and working back up to towards 100FPS.

The “latency issues” they refer to are their abilities not going off when they click. This is a result of WoW’s ancient engine. The network and queue layer needs to be redone to a more big data type approach, I suspect.

People’s desktops can handle the zerg fights above 60fps now with newest hardware.

We’ve come a long way it seems in a short time. Not too long ago, $100 “Entry Level” got you something like a Pentium G3258, a dual core Haswell CPU.

Now, $100 buys you an i7 of yore.

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People use “latency issues” as a catch all for anytime the game freezes up on them. Kind of like how people say their PC is slow, it must have a virus. Some of the issues are probably due to their hardware, some of the issues can be the ISP or their in house wi-fi, and some of the issues can obviously be the WoW engine itself.

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For sure. Icecrown is experiencing that PVPers have been going though in weekly world PVP quests and Ashran of old days.

It’s easy to identify what problem is where but you accept you can either troubleshoot or get killed by an army of gnomes with toothpicks… i mean spears.

In my experience, what I see is solid consistent/smooth framerate (typically above 60-90fps) but actions when pressed do nothing.

I encountered one scenario where an ICC boss had 20% health left, I engaged, pressed a bunch of abilities, but by the time it died (5-10s later), I didn’t get any credit for the kill as none of my abilities registered.

This is despite having smooth framerate with no visible game stuttering.

I don’t have wifi issues in other games or areas, it’s specifically during intense multiplayer environments in wow

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Thanks :two_hearts:

I do my best to stay informed. I build gaming rigs for a lot of folks.

Rhythalia is always up on his/her stuff too!

HyperX Predator 16GB 4000MHz CL19 (HX440C19PB3AK2/16) is 164$ for a 2x 16GB kit on Amazon. Its on MOST motherboard QVL list and its also Samsung-B Die. Buy that and downclock to 3800mhz CL16

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It’s also 2x/3x as much as your typical 3600/3200 cl16 16gb kits, and most folks aren’t ramping up to 32gb yet

I did a build for a customer recently all I did was turn on DOCP (XMP). Did no RAM timings what so ever. It actually ran on his 5900x @4000mhz and 2000 FLCK. Kind of worth it for 4000mhz imo.

But his motherboard is a killer tbh. Very premium board. Always first to get BIOS updates. Hes on the RoG Crosshair Formula x570

Not disagreeing it might be worth it, but your audience is already beyond the norm.

Right now most people are probably buying pre builds that even to this day are shipping with 2666/2933

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Why do you have to bring me down with common logic?

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Woof pant pant

Thanks but I’m using G.Skill F4-3200C14D-32GTZN.

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/326/1562838637/F4-3200C14D-32GTZNTrident-Z-NeoDDR4-3200MHz-CL14-14-14-34-1.35V32GB-(2x16GB)

Yes, it will go 4000mhz just fine if I can get FCLK to 4000 stable.