These ridiculousness needs to stop because most of the time these skips that people do are forced upon the group and basically shoving these skips down our throats when I’ll bet the majority doesn’t want to do them especially in azure vaults or any other dungeons. And plus these skips won’t save you time even if it does it doesn’t make the dungeon anymore shorter.
Also, doing these skips in both normal and heroic difficulties is ruining immersion for new players since normal dungeon is an entry level experience and for leveling. Last thing when doing skips in leveling content you’re basically giving healers more trouble because once your level 70 and they are below that they won’t have any way to heal back those who are level 70 and has received fall damage.
Defend skipping all you like but it doesn’t benefit anyone when leveling or trying to experience in full.
the whole point of skipping is the faster u finish the run the faster u get the xp. your immersion isnt more important than me leveling my alt. the skip benefits everyone whos still leveling. if your trying to experience a dungeon in full go find some friends and run it slow with them.
im doing that while i wait for the next dungeon queue to pop. nobodies got time for slow runs
This reply just says everything about your type of people just like to rush and thinking that the end boss will give you loads of experience when the bosses already have a “fixed” experience amount they’ll give to players. Mobs in dungeons plus bosses adds up even more experience than say just beating bosses because after you kill both boss and mobs those will tally up a lot more but sure make your argument about how the end boss will somehow magically gives you 3x the experience even when it really doesn’t.
If you want to do the skips why not assemble your own group and do it but nope your type have to use the dungeon finder and force these skips down others throat.
no the last boss doesnt give loads of xp. killing him is what is considered finishing the dungeon which gives me the random dungeon xp which is the majority of xp from a dungeon. how could you not know this.
see this arguement might work is lets lowball it and say 99% of the playerbase is all for it and does it on their own. if anything its people like you throwing a temper tantrum and trying to force players to play how you want because you dont like it. either tank so you cant cry about people having better things to do than run dungeons slowly or accept the fact that your wrong
Some would say your leveling your alt is not more important then their immersion.
If you want to go fast and do the skips, form a group with some friends and do so.
What is a “slow” run? is it takes longer then 10-15 mins, which by the way can be done without skipping much if anything, or is it anything longer then enter-> last boss->out?
I’ll take statistics that I made up out of thin air for 200 Alex.
If you want to do things one way, get a group that also wants to do things that way or ask/communicate about such. If you are using the LFD tool, accept that either the tank set the path or that there will be people with different views in your group.
theres no need when the majority are after quick runs as well.
never said it wasnt made up but based on personal experience its accurate since in the entire xpac i found 1 tank that didnt want to skip. also as either im the tank or someone else is the tank if either of us are taking skips then obviously im still right since even they want to get the dungeon done as quick as possible to start the next. more xp > someones immersion
and they would say you are wrong, This is one of those cases where you are right for you, they are right for them, and failure to see such is one of the main issues.
The majority may be after quick runs, but I have had quick runs with no skips, that comes down to how geared/skilled the group is, and if they are geared/skilled enough the skip might shave 10 second off clearing the dungeon.
No, you just found more with your views, you are right for a section of the player base, and one you likely run into most of the time, but to claim you are right for everyone is so egotistically self-centered that even if I was of the same attitude as far as skips, and I actually take a “if everyone knows it, use it, if it takes an odd set up or knowledge, don’t” stance, I wold tell you to get lost.
While generally I agree with OP here on the dislike of skipping, there ARE a couple of skips in dungeons I do enjoy that cut the time of a dungeon down by at least 5 mins. Such as the ones in Azure Vaults. Those are fine. Well the jumping down to first boss, then to what’s his face at the end. The new one that basically requires slowfall to do can go suck an egg.
oh i know this is that case which is why i said there wrong since im not them XD
never claimed im right for everyone. as you quoted my words all i said was that if there taking the skip to im still right. didnt say im right for everyone and tbh idc about everyone especially those not in the group im running the dungeon with
One thing people tend to overlook on forums is you don’t have to say the exact words, but you can come across as saying things via tone or how others read it.
Your words might not have said the things I countered, but your tone or way have putting it smacked of “I’m right no matter what”. I would have let a lot of what you said slide if you had made it clear that you were right in that instance.
Sorry if I know a skip, I’m not sitting there making a normal or heroic dungeon take longer than it needs to because you refuse to be efficient. If skips are too complicated for you, you probably shouldn’t be in group content
I rather like this reply.
I’m neither for or against skips l, but I will now refer to them as “hypotenuse routes”. Just make me chuckle a little bit to think of it that way.
Rolls off the tongue better than “Pythagorean routes”, but both are appealing in their own way.
I mean, if it makes the dungeon go faster, then I’m not going to complain. If an attempt to skip something results in time wasted, however, I will always find it unacceptable.
Yes you’re right skips shouldn’t be an expected thing and people should totally make their own groups if they want to speedrun dungeons. Some of you guys are so quick to tell people to play with friends until you’re being told the same thing lol
Want to skip a boss or do some weird run around?? Maybe make your own groups