Sira Moonwarden, upon being raised into Undeath very quickly hopped ship to be on Sylvanas’ side.
Did Blizzard suddenly forget that Wardens are supposed to be some of the most faithful and zealous warriors of Elune? It’s completely jarring and ridiculous to see one these Zealots, the “Iron hand of Justice” just suddenly forget about Avenging her people.
Lord Godfrey, in comparison was completely doubtful about his Loyalties in life, but after being raised into undeath, he realized that he valued King and Country more than personal gain. He murdered Sylvanas to prove this point.
Alternatively. Sira Moonwarden dies trying to Avenge the homeland she loved, and just instantly forgets about all of it to side with Sylvanas?
If we’re supposed to believe that Sylvanas actually has Godlike powers of mind control over her undead, then blizzard will just keep spontaneously changing character personalities to “Subvert expectations”
I am well aware that this whole storyline with Sira only happens so that Blizzard could use the same boss battle for the Horde and Alliance side of the Warfront, but the quality of writing here just baffles me.
I don’t think Godfrey killed Sylvanas out of loyalty to Greymame or Gilneas. Godfrey was simply a megalomaniac who believed he could stand against both his former kingdom and the Forsaken.
I do agree with the rest of your post though. It’s made even worse when Sira says she died on Maiev’s orders, when she was simply told to scout - not engage Blightcaller.
She shouldn’t have had to. Sira wasn’t supposed to engage. And even if she was, that’s not grounds to turn against your nation to ally with the one that committed genocide against them.
“Ah yes. I was defeated in battle without support for my Allies. Time to team up with the person who destroyed my home and slaughtered my people! I am the iron hand of justice!”
Would Sira feel abandoned? Sure.
Would she then decide spontaneously to forget all about Justice and Vengeance, the fundamentals of what it means to be a Warden and team up with the very same people who destroyed her Homeland? No. Not at all.
Free will has nothing to do with Sira or most of the other new Foresaken the evil toaster lady is raising. That is even mentioned in some quest dialogue. Which is on top of the comments from her lap dog about “More bodies for the Warchief’s army”.
She really is the new Lich Queen. At least until Blizzard says it was all just a misunderstanding and would anyone like to buy a body pillow in the online shop with her picture on it - only 99.95!
If you did the intro and pay attention, Sira Moonwarden drops some very obvious hints she feels like Elune has dropped the ball and abandoned them. That goes for Maiev too. They made it very clear Sira Moonwarden was about to swap sides given her beliefs.
Uh. I think you’re romanticizing this one. Lord Godfrey willingly kidnapped Lorna, made it very clear he didn’t kill her for the sake of going along with a plan, murdered countless Alliance and Horde soldiers without a care, and then shot Sylvanas because he elected to fight for himself. Gilneas had nothing to do with anything, and he makes it very clear that he would take over Lordaeron because he could.
Some undead, especially those who die in combat or under extreme stress and are raised soon after, enter into a violent, frenzied state. Undead in this state are easily manipulated.
Along with:
Psychological pressure can also be used to turn freshly-raised undead to the side of the Forsaken instead of the one of their former allies.
And…
Upon first being raised, a Forsaken does not have free will.
Though I am rather skeptical of the changes that could have caused Sira to change, once she changed, the fanatical stance of the Wardens would most certainly catapult her to the other extreme. Then again, as Lillian Voss says, coming back as undead makes everyone insane to one degree or another. Sira had no reason to doubt she’d loose that fight so the shock and anger “could” have propelled her to place blame on Maiev for her defeat and ignominious death as an execution.
There is the effect of extremes in one direction tend to lead to extremes in the other. For example, some converts tend to be much harsher in their judgement of those who did what they were doing or believing than those who evolved into their beliefs, be it politics, religion, sober or whatever. Sudden and massive changes in perspective rarely results in a measured and thoughtful perspective.
Sira was already having doubts about Elune and her faith after viewing the goddess seemingly abandoned them when they lost Teldrassil.
But you also have to add on that undeath dampens positive emotions. So her doubts and anger would be enhanced further upon being raised. Same goes for Delaryn Summermoon too. This isn’t the first time a warden has turned traitor either. Cordana shot down her vows too and joined the Legion and she wasn’t even undead.
you are assuming sira has free will after being raised. Sure we have always been told that forsaken have free will but ever since cata that has been very questionable about newly raised forsaken especially those raised on the frontlines. Can’t have your new soldiers turning on you in the middle of a battlefield.
This being the case would also explain why the forsaken military is generally so twisted and evil while the civilians are rather normal for the most part.
Sira was already expressing some lapses in faith in elune and trust in her sisters before she was raised as forsaken.
Her becoming forsaken made her resentments stronger. As she says to horde players that speak with her, they all accepted the dark gift for a reason, and it’s not one they want to talk about.
It’s likely the Val’kyr showed them something that made them choose to accept. Like they did with Sylvanas .
Well, Cordana Felsong did go from protecting Kadghar to working for the Legion, so it’s not completely unheard of. But even with Cordana, it wasn’t some sudden change of heart.
Spirits of the dead can fragment into pieces of one’s personality (see Heyla’s domain questline).
The way I see it, a forsaken is not the whole person they were in life, just pieces of them stuffed back into the corpse. Those pieces might only show one unbalanced aspect of the frustrations and traumas a person went through - it’s still them, but potentially like catching them in a bad mood on a bad day.
(those who have seen a relative survive a stroke might relate to alterations of personality afterwards as surviving parts of the brain pick up the pieces)
Anyway, I’d have enjoyed a little more exploration of the arc of these new elven forsaken, but I don’t feel I have to stretch too far to fill in the gaps with my own imagination.
Tyrande said some mean things to Thalyssra because the Nightborne had a track record of helping two different mad queens, now a third.
Remember that time Quel’thelas drained an angel until it became a black hole? How about when they almost went back to the Alliance when things got tough in the Horde?
