Single Button Rotation bad for new players

Start off by explaining I hated the idea of Single Button Rotation. Later I tried to justify it as a learning tool. Now it is here.

At the very least, I expected it to teach people how to do there rotation/priority rotation. Nope. This thing lists spells which are needed for their spec, then proceeds to never use them. Does not cast in correct order, really confused about the priority process used. Doesn’t use major CDs and flat out refuses to acknowledge execute windows for some specs. Heaven forbid it include racial and trinket CDs when applicable.

How does this help anyone? The damage output is almost half at it’s best of what I can do on my own. even when i force in the CDs. I think you Devs need to scrap this until it at least can be used as a learning tool as opposed to breaking your own social contract and hurting people’s feelings. There is zero benefit as it is now.

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This isn’t designed for you. Take this as a compliment.

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much like LFR, it’s not clear who it’s for, why it’s there or how to use it, so it will lead to endless forum drama.

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It’s perfectly clear who LFR is for and it’s the most popular form of raiding in the game. Time to get over it.

then why does it lack raid essentials such as progression and cooperation and leadership?

Because they people for whom it was created hate those things. Potentially up to and including raiding.

It’s my understanding the one button is for very new players, very casual players, players that have a disability ect so they can still contribute something with limited experience and game knowledge. This game is very very complicated for someone who has never played it before and it makes it difficult to get them sold on the subscription. I think it’s great, why not? I wouldn’t focus too much on that if you’re doing any real content it doesn’t matter because it isn’t a viable option for success. If they made drastic changes to pet battling or transmog farming I would be indifferent as I am with this feature. To each their own!

Incorrect. It is a completely viable option for many classes and will probably out dps you.

See: tettles video. Man does 5M overall in a ML 17 with 1 button.

Idk about you, but 17 is higher than any key I’ve done and 5M dps is extraordinarily uncommon in my groups.

I’m hearing from some classes it’s terrible and some it’s doing crazy damage I don’t know if that’s intended or not it remains to be seen. I out dps my one button rotation substantially as an ele shaman, although the single target one button was piping on the dummies. Interesting to see what happens with it!

Fwiw, 5m dps isn’t a crazy number in high keys it is common although shocking with one button you can pull that off. I did see that tettles video it is worth paying attention too for sure, I was just speaking on what I believed to be the intention of it that’s all

it explains the problem. creating raiding for players who hate raiding is not a good idea.

Sounds like you don’t understand the button. That doesn’t make it bad.

The problem is that the way it is designed, the GCD penalty is less of a penalty for classes who have spell casts that are longer than the GCD. If all your spells are instant, then 0.3s GCD penalty is much worse than if all your spells are 2s cast Chaos Bolts.

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Isn’t it as high as a 30 percent DPS loss for a good number of specs who do the one button in single target?

no, it’s 30% theoretical DPS loss.

if you were doing 50% of the theoretical max, it’s a 20% increase.

Most people who do that badly aren’t doing their rotation that badly. It’s a lot of the time just struggling dealing with movement and uptime, and the 1 button rotation won’t help with that.

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the one button will not use all the CDs, but players can press the CDs themselves, Tettles have proof the single button is very good, he top dps in a +17 dungeon with his boomkin.
I TOPPED DPS IN A +17 DUNGEON BY PRESSING ONE BUTTON

Tettles is a bad example, he is playing literally a top 2 meta spec that is already 15% above middle of the pack and on top of that balance druid is one of the least affected by the OBR penalty. You can’t be surprised that a spec that’s 15% above the middle losing 16% to OBR penalty is still doing good damage. Balance druid with OBR is still better than 12 other specs absolute best. That’s not an OBR issue, that’s a Blizzard is awful at balance issue. It’s an outlier and not the standard. When Tettles is timing 17s with fire mage, worst M+ DPS and one of the most impacted by OBR, using OBR and not being carried then we can talk about OBR being OP. Until then if it proves anything it’s exactly why people take the meta specs. There is a lot of room for playing badly and still doing above average DPS because the balance gaps are that big.

Also, there was a weak aura that allowed people to bypass the GCD penalty and have it use cooldowns. It’s now fixed, but any dps data from the first few days is potentially tainted so take them with a grain of salt. Tettles certainly knew about it, not saying he used it for that run, but unless he showed his weak auras it can’t be discounted.

Had a demo lock in a 2 doing 200k dps despite having decent gear. Watched him for a little bit. He was moving way too much. Like preemptive movement, nothing was happening to him. He also stood in stuff that with a long telegraph.

This player was definitely struggling with his movement, but probably his class as well.