When I was completing Loremaster recently I came across a great many bugs. Some had been discussed on wowhead since those ancient zones were new, and had never been fixed. Some could not be completed at level due to ridiculous mechanics and overtuning no doubt put in to make elitists feel that those “noobs” were getting what they deserved, which was to be crushed at level 70 by mobs with 600k health. Yes, wowhead had a workaround, which was “do the quest at max level”. Sweet.
I had to keep a spreadsheet for later followup when I greately overleveled many zones.
My conclusion is that when converting zones from “do X # of quests” to “do all storylines”, somebody thought it was a good idea to make the last quest in storylines difficult enough so that not everyone could complete it. Or maybe they were tuning them for the elite players who wanted content to be challenging enough to be difficult for the best-geared and most experienced players in the game.
In any case, there is no sign that any of these quests were tested on at level players. I suspect they ran a max level player through once and called it good.
And the thing is, when someone is blocked by an uncompletable quest, now they can’t finish the zone at all. They have to abandon the zone and find another one to quest in. Again last week I tried to help a guildie who couldn’t kill waves of quest mobs that they haven’t given you the toolkit to deal with at level 20. According to wowhead, there was one quest before this one. But apparently that’s been changed, and I could find no information on how to get into that questline in a zone I had never completed.
So he abandoned the zone, and I gave him a ride to another zone.
Whatever happened to that “now you can complete zones and see the whole story!” thing? We keep hearing it. People who say it either haven’t leveled or have carefully limited themselves to zones they know aren’t broken.
There were questlines in at least half a dozen zones. The one he was stuck on (which I have failed to help others on) was Redridge Mountains.
Others included Netherstorm, Dragonblight, and Zul’drak. I’m not counting really bugged quests (like vehicle quests) that could occasionally be finished if you did them long enough, rng man.
Your point was they were saying “Go look it up”, like in a snarky “Google it!” sort of way, right? If not, then I apologize, but your post did come off that way to me because you said it feels more like an insult. I just wanted to say that they weren’t saying simply “go look it up”, they were offering WoWHead as a helpful suggestion.
So I just did Redridge on my level 30 shadow priest. The only part that’s even remotely an issue is when you’re killing the elites at Stonewatch. I initially forgot to pick up Bravo Company and got my butt kicked, but on the second try, with them, it was perfectly doable. Took a little kiting and using defensives, but nothing too bad.
I think that maybe that part is a little too difficult, especially for potentially newer players. Are the issues with the other zones you mentioned similar?
read again.
I said 2 weeks, not 2 days.
If you think tickets were being responded to in 2 days during Wrath, you’re remembering wrong.
The people who say this, are part of the problem.
It takes maybe 2 seconds to right click>report.
Blizzard can’t “fix” it, if people aren’t reporting it.
Yes. Just typos.
I’m not one of those people who screams “bug” just because something isn’t working the way I expect it to.
(a current example of this would be all the people screaming about how “loot spec” is bugged, when they don’t understand the circumstances when loot spec actually applies)
I play the game… probably much the same as anyone else.
Still waiting for some screenshots of these alleged bug reports which you claim you ticketed.
They’ll be right there in your ticket history.
They do provide help.
…but what most people seem to think of as “help”, is actually considered a “game hint”… which is not part of their job description.
So… they didn’t take a few seconds to read the quest log, and that’s somehow Blizzards fault? …or a bug?
So I turned of mt ad blockers, all of them and I get a total of 3 ads, 2 being the same fanbyte ad advertising the site that I assume runs WoWhead.
So literally one actual external ad on the right hand side and that is the same on all pages I view.
And I don’t blame them wanting us to pay or view ads, they would be getting a lot of views and at only $1 a month, that is a fair price to turn of ads legitimately.
This forum will help open your eyes to the bugs you fail to acknowledge.
No those arent players just wasting time on the forums or noticing typos. Bugs and issues that need to be addressed not ignored by Blizzard and players such as yourself.
Title: Since when was “Check Wowhead” an acceptable answer?
What answer WOULD be acceptable to you, OP? GMs don’t work with the game code. They can’t fix bugs. Do you want the GM to grovel before you (on behalf of Blizzard, of course)? What IS an “acceptable answer” to you?
From your description, it seems like the GMs tried to help your character complete the quest. Isn’t that exactly what we want them to do?
A very large number of what people report as “bugs”, are actually user error.
People not understanding how something works, or things not working how they want them to.
One of the most prolific “bug reporters”, is someone who constantly complains how alliance abilities don’t work in pvp. (they’re only person on the planet who experiences this bug apparently!)
There’s a thread created 5 hours ago by someone who doesn’t know how Hydraxian rep works, and rather than take a few seconds to look it up, they decided it was easier to assume it’s a bug, and type up a bug report for something which is working as intended… which wastes the time of QA, because they need to sift through the junk which isn’t bugs.
well that’s not how the forum works, but there is a small group of us who frequent the bug report forum to assist the people who don’t understand that their “bugs” aren’t actually bugs.
Thankfully, the vast majority of these people are able to admit they goofed, and are happy to be given the correct information.
Unfortunately, there are other people who think they need to stand their ground, even when they’ve been shown to be wrong.
I think part of the problem also is that Blizzard has gotten rather lazy with their in-game explanations of things because 3rd party sites exist.
If someone is mistakenly reporting a problem as a bug that is working as intended, then is that the player’s problem or Blizzards for not making it more obvious that is the expected outcome?
GMs and CMs shouldn’t be just break/fix specialist, they should function as front-line agents to customer satisfaction. They should be reporting repeated misreports because that might lead to better gameplay and less of a need to use 3rd party sites.
