Since October 2005: What's the Vision, Blizzard?

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So I’ve been in your forums since october 2005 Blizzard asking various things.

One: What’s the vision?
Two: Why is it so precious?
Three: Why can’t it be written where the players can see it?
Four: You claim to care as dev’s, however you lot do not take WoW seriously.

Every single storyline unfinished in game is an atrocious chance to have kept old story content staying relevant by pushing and pursuing the narrative, shaping, angling and invigorating the story along the way by keeping the single and indeed many players invested into the game on a level that would have us now at sub’s likely past wrath.

Instead we get the phoned in Saturday Morning Cartoon show wannabe no meaningful story rule of cool and epic do-over so called “story fest” that is current WoW.

I have asked Blizzard to figure out how to get the story to matter.

So we get wanna be Thanos in the form of Zovaal the Jailer that somehow always wins, the game threatens to be as hard to follow if not worse than ever, and the developers continue to only take the smallest pittance of an effort to figure out the why of all that occurs, the so called story.

Would someone please for the love of this game get Blizzard to realize that the story drives the narrative and the action of the game, and the story is also the why the player is here?

The MCU did so well because despite all their movies basically having to be followable, relatable, and above all, both engaging and entertaining, the Hero Monomyth each MCU flick is both has a cookie cutter feel to some as well as being a box office smash as each one takes the story and makes sure that as you, the viewer, see the progression of the plot and how the actual people in the interactive course of the movie ARE, and LIVE, unlike WoW there’s a point.

World of Warcraft right now has no point.

I wish I had the time to go back through each expansion and find every single quest chain that just up and dried up, vanished and was allowed to leave the limelight because story continuity is not in Blizzard’s wheelhouse, and does not appear that it currently ever will be.

Again, I’ve been asking for Blizzard to take it’s game seriously since October 2005.

So, Blizzard. Your game is both old and nearly over as there’s no point when you constantly use rule of cool and epic do-over as your substance drivers and don’t do an actually intellectually invested good job of handling the writing and the story as far as what WoW is thus far.

How might you get people more invested? By actually writing more than just a weak sauce storyline for the meta story. I also notice that I’m pretty sure there is no meta story. You likely haven’t ever even considered one, let alone how much money could be made if you’d just have bothered to keep the story fresh, new, engaging and above all, fun.

Go back and play ALL of the Vanilla. Find EVERY SINGLE Dropped storyline, and then see how they’d have been brought current into BC. Do the same throughout the game’s life all the way from Vanilla to BC through to BFA to Shadowlands.

Your red versus blue storyline is forced, and contrived.
Your attempts to keep the two player bases happy together has never been attempted.
Your lack of care for the Alliance with the “Defeat Jaina” in Ardenweald is Horde centric on an Alliance toon. Why?

Above all, you could show you care, and yet, at this rate, it seems you never will.
Your vision of WoW is sacred to you.

Is your vision of WoW so sacred to you that you will kill this game and drive away your players, your paying customers, rather than shift gears at all and prove you care?

I for one would welcome being wrong and you might yet prove you care.

I won’t hold my breath nor hold out for hope.

Let this trainwreck of a game find it’s comeupance and Blizzard it’s death knell in the loss of WoW.

I sometimes have prophetic dreams. WoW will die at some point in the near future, this year, next year, some time soon. I’ve already seen this flag go up in a dream state.

I guess if I ever get the money I’ll have to see about fixing WoW.

We shall see.

I certainly can’t do a worse job than you lot have.

You were warned.

October 2005, the forums back then had a fan say, “Please care! Stop phoning the game in and calling it good!” Or something to that effect.

It’s no wonder WoW has always been a lackluster story: you lot don’t get why you need to put story driving gameplay first, until then, by all means, keep forcing yourselves out of business.

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I don’t know what the vision is but the company motto hanging above Ion’s office is “Do something dumber than the day before.”

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Didn’t read most of the thread, but:

what kind of prophecy is this? “You’re gonna die someday” isn’t exactly a profound thing to think of.

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Dreams that come true later.

I never said that’s what that dream was.

I did type that WoW will some time die in the near future according to Blizzard Entertainment.

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How much money they can make before they slide down the gutter in lawsuits.

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If Danuser’s writing is any indication, their inability to go negative from story quality is…

Wait, that was funnier when I thought Danuser couldn’t bankrupt the company.

He can. And he might drive away the last semblance of customers with the drivel he keeps attempting to pass for quality.

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I mean thats kinda the wow forums schtick. Pointing out that death is an inevitability is profound news to alot of people here.

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New and exciting “prophecy” here. See you in 9.2 and beyond.

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I’m not seeing quality writing.

My sub expires and if 9.2 is the trash it’s looking to be and the next patch is more Danuser fanfic fanservice so called lore, it’s not going to end well for WoW.

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There is a session called ABOUT in the Blizzard website.
Some of the questions are literally there.

The rant itself is full of nonsense that read “I dont care what YOU say about YOUR company, I want YOU to say about YOUR company what I WANT you to say”.

Honestly, There is no argument here. There is nothing to it. It is just like those movie critics that criticize a movie just to say what they would have done with the movie, which to be frank, most often than not, would have made it worse.

It is like that thing about not understanding why something works the way it works and wanting to change not because it does not work, but wanting to change to something the person criticizing know how it works.

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Trying to tell Blizzard how they might increase subscribers is a bad thing?

The Blizzard shills are seriously out tonight.

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$$ yessssh

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I like how your first response to someone criticizing your poorly glued together word salad is to call them a shill.

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So what you’re claiming now is that by trying to bring to Blizzard’s attention the fact that the Hero Monomyth, a problem for any type of movie let alone the sheer number involved with the MCU is somehow only bad when I mention cookie cutter, and yet Marvel used the chance to make sure each movie was a self contained story, lesson, and adventure.

None of that applies to WoW.

How do you fail to see that story driven gameplay would improve WoW immensely if they’d fix the game to work that way?

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IF someone who works in a company that HAS a game bearing more players than WoW comes here and say from knowledge and experience, I am all ears.

Some random person in a forum that might never even had a video in YouTube with as many likes trying to teach people who DID something how to do it, Cant see how that is “sound advice”.

The World is full of people trying to tell other people how to do things they themselves dont know how to.

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You must be a joy at parties.

Sensible arguments don’t matter if the person is less of value than you decide.

They ASK for advice on how to improve the game.

They’ve NEVER tried my idea.

Will it work? Dunno.

Will they ever try my idea? I doubt it, they don’t take advice well, and apparently neither do you. Ideas can withstand empirical tests, it’s called science.

Testing an idea that might be worth it and discarding it because the person asking for a chance to try something out is not up to your personal standards is low.

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Reading comprehension must be hard.

The logic is there.

The idea that Blizzard ignores the story for the action and spectacle they can put on screen through rule of cool and epic do-over is known.

It’s why they’re failing.

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Okay, I figured out what I find at odds with this thread post.

An idea that is not entertained upon it’s own base merits and strengths, and any flaws it might have is largely moot because the speaker is viewed as inadequate is what you seem to want to make of my post.

Why is any single idea bad if it is not intellectually weighed and observed as an objectively testable concept a thing? This is why Blizzard is dying: ANY new idea that THEY request on these forums MUST be dismissed if it’s not from a trusted and viewed as worth saying it source is why WoW is dying and may soon die.

My idea is one that can be tested empirically and also objectively. If my credentials are not up to Blizzard’s standards and my idea is tossed out because of it, how does it NOT Make sense then that Blizzard MUST fail?

I offer an intellectually challengable and testable, in game viable and possible solution that Blizzard itself has requested from it’s players, that’s part of why the forums are here.

I am summarily rejected by what seems to be a Blizzard poster account because I don’t work on a game with as much or more cred, and because of that my idea is useless.

No WONDER Blizzard is dying! This mental leap of faith that if I don’t have credentials to justify my post is PROOF that Blizzard MUST die as a company! This attitude dismisses any and all ideas on no basis other than opinion and utterly ignores an idea’s own merits, flaws, and points just because one can.

Kravanarasha, you are as bad if not worse than Blizzard for thinking this way. It’s no wonder Blizzard is heading further and further downhill, your post basically proves your mindset and why Blizzard is dying now, and SHOULD die in the future!

If no idea can be entertained exclusively upon its own merits, flaws, and premises, then all you do is hasten WoW’s death by judging an idea rather than testing it!

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look i am going to be serious here when i say i have had actual prophetic dreams heck when i was 23 yrs old i dreamed of a Mario CG fully animated Movie though i couldn’t hear the sounds just the animation and i thought to my self “that is never going to happen” and not too long again Nintendo announced Mario Movie in the works by Illumination and Nintendo.

and that scared the daylight out of me because when i was 28 yrs and a lot of very serious health and family problems in my life where happening i stop playing wow for a while to take care of my self, during that age i had a dream of Azeroth, but Azeroth was not the same in anyway.

i was playing as a fox like creature that i didn’t know it was going to be called a Vulpera and in this day the Vulpera i played didn’t look much like the ones today, wish means it could have been a different design or a design not yet made because obviously all race get more designs in time.

but still i was playing a Vulpera non the less i was flying in a weird looking insect that resemble a dragonfly and as i was flying in the Easter Plaguelands i notice it was a lush out of control forest like the one in Dreanor mix with the one in the south barrens.

Azeroth was very much different.

i woke up sweating because it all looked pretty real.

so far the only thing i have seen come true is the Vulpera and that scared me even more, i don’t hate Vulpera i just don’t like the idea that dreams i have had are becoming somewhat true because a lot of my dreams i have had involve tornados, zunami and War like real actual War.

i just hope i don’t see a eastern plague lands with a mess up forest cus if that happens i am building a bunker for real.