Simple request regarding Entropic Rift and Void Torrent

Classes Priest
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I realize Bliz very likely will not read this, and this is hopeless. Just putting it out there for discussion because its Friday and work is slow lol.

When using Void Weaver, make Void Torrent ALWAYS allow the caster to move regardless of which hero talent is chosen. Change the hero talent to a choice node either slowing or providing a more significant speed buff (maybe 40-60% instead of 20%). If the slow is chosen there no speed buff and vise versa. This either gives the priest better mobility (particularly during their burst) allowing us to escape a little better, or allows us to kite easier.

Seems like a simple enough change that would solve a lot of the issues I personally have with SP, which is mostly just lack of mobility or lack of an effective ability to kite or slow opponents.

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I’ll 1-up you on this one.

Void Eruption (Void Form) - You’re Floating - Allow Movement while casting during Voidform.

Apotheosis (Light Form) - You’re Flying - Allow Movement while casting during Apotheosis.

My justification:

Shamans have Spirit Walker’s Grace that allow this.
Dracthyr have Hover that allows this.

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Isn’t hover evoker specific, as in if you change to Dracthyr when it’s available for priest, you do not have access to it?

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Its specific to Evoker, but that’s not the point.

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I think we only get wing buffet and glide.
I agree with both tho. Having to break a void torrent to move feels SO painful.

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Race changing to make up for a classes faults is either predatory monetization or poor class design. Period.

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Why not both?

I get what you’re saying though; Not having a cd or limited abilities that are castable while moving is really compounding the issues spriest has.

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I main Holy/Spriest right now and use to main Disc in the past so I’m very proficient in all Specs and understand them.

Priests biggest issues are the following as of now:

  • Lack of Utility
  • Lack of Mobility
  • Lack of Impactful AoE Healing

Nearly all impactful spells are Channeled or Hard Casted

  • Mindflay
  • Void Torrent
  • Divine Hymn
  • Heal
  • Prayer of Healing
  • Mind Blast
  • Flash Heal

We have to rely heavily on instant cast procs which we may or may not have when we need them most.

Mobility is the worst, I don’t really have to go into this, but Feathers aren’t cutting it.

AoE healing outside of Halo, which is bugged at the moment and the fact it hasn’t been patched yet mean Blizzard knows that Priests are only competitive on the Raid Logs right now is ONLY because Halo is bugged.

Prayer of Healing is so weak, spam casting Flash Heal provides a higher throughput and has a much higher chance of saving players falling low on health. I would rather Prayer of Healing have a 15-20 second CD, but is an absolute Chonker of an AoE heal.

Prayer of Mending 60k a Bounce… give me a break.

Circle of Healing? I barely see peoples health bars move when casted.

Divine Hymn - Very strong when paired with Halo BUT it has to be channeled for 8-seconds and has a 3 minute CD that only heals for 1-mil over its 8 second duration. - God forbid you have to move as soon as you start casting it.

Sanctify - 1min CD maybe a 250k heal on players with 5+million life… ok

Renew - 12k HPS ticks… may as well remove it from the game.

Priest is just terrible right now. lol

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I mean, these are all things that are well known by the priest community right now, and I don’t mean to minimize their importance, but a lot of what you’re stating are numbers adjustments.

And as all of us priest players are aware of: The class needs a full rework right now so that it’s functionally cohesive within each spec and have an equitable amount of tools in the kit as a hybrid class; we really shouldn’t play second fiddle to something like mage or dk as far as utility goes, nor see such a disparity between hybrids, let alone dps or dps/tank classes.

I 100% agree that void torrent should be castable while moving by default, and that our cd’s need to be instant, but having played the class since the game launched at levels from full casual to server first races, I don’t think we’ll see anything that drastic. Disappointing, I know.

Posting on these forums is largely performative/responsive as it’s been made very apparent that developers do not interact with us in any way so it kinda gets a little echo-chamber-y at times, not from terrible takes being amplified and agreed upon for the wrong reasons, but because the overwhelming majority of priest players of all caliber in all content agree that these base issues need to be addressed to see meaningful change for the class.

My career has me spending a lot of time on data analytics, and I know that insanity is presenting that data with clear solutions in front of them, only to have executive leaders say ‘naw, that’s not the issue, we’re going to do something else to fix it’, which results in a larger headache than what we started with. Or when the data is far too generalized and they deem it acceptable that the issues exist and won’t make adjustments because they see no problem worth resources.

We can’t appease everyone, but everyone can be a little more content with some love spent working on priest with some actual feedback discussion. I shouldn’t be able to log in on almost any other class/spec and perform better with less gear in almost every respect other than more fine class-mechanics/micro play.

And don’t even get me started on being the only class with two healing specs and one dps spec… You would think that we would, design wise, take elements of all of our spec trees that are used across all specs, and 2 healing specs would give us plenty of utility through those, but here we are.

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I have to say, Xal’atath looks really cool the way she floats around.

At one point, surrender to madness allowed the Shadow Priest to cast while moving.

I think that should be brought back and made the defining feature of Voidform and have you floating around like she does… Maybe even make it so you have a 50% reduction in spell interruption effects during that time as well.

Then perhaps for Dark Ascension, I would say make Mind Blast instant cast with a lower cooldown similar to what Clarity of Power from WoD did. But that would make Shadowy Insight a bit redundant and only really be useful outside of Dark Ascension. So maybe have a choice node to increase the damage of Mind Blast instead of a chance to proc a instant and reset.

That would then allow for more burst damage for Dark Ascension while giving it its own form of mobility with guaranteed instant cast Mind Blast for the duration.

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No particular reason other than that when Blizzard giveth they also always seem to taketh away with priests lol.