Siege of Orgrimmar: Paragons bug

did you leave the circle area? cause if you do, it buggers up n often breaks the fight

Still a bug waited till the 3 were down, attacked and now looking at Ka’Roz the Locust . . not coming down and stuck in the battle.

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If you allow the RP to finish, and wait for the first 3 to land before attacking, there should be no problem. This, however, assumes that you understand that pushing more than one of them to zero at the same time will glitch the encounter. Avoid aoe, and make sure you are doing single target damage.

Once again, multiphase encounters can and will go wrong if you do too much damage too quickly.

It’s a lot more okay than using autistic the way you just did.

It may be, but it’s even more stupid to have such an easy fix available but decide that it’s better to complain and be a jackass on the forums.

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Yikes.

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Waiting like 20-30 seconds is too much for you?

You have to wait like 2 minutes for the Garrosh RP to finish before you can fight him, surely 20 seconds or so is something you can live with.

Wait until they are done talking before you start the fight. Then kill only one at a time.

Do kids these days just swallow tide pods and jump on the fanboi bus? Old content that is farmed with the intent of farming should be tuned and bug fixed. Granted you can wait for the RP but that doesn’t excuse old content that has bugs that need to be fixed. The old content is meant to be done, by the way, hence why they add pets and legacy buffs. This content will never be bug-free(Klaxxi) but some of these things can be and should be fixed.

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Okay then smart guy. Keep fighting for that hill. Instead of having to hearth and reset the raid and then raging on the forums, I’ll be eating my tide pods when I finish the raid because I can figure out something simple like not pushing my buttons for a few extra seconds.

But if the idea of a 6 year old multiphase raid boss having the exact same issue that come up in every multiphase raid boss when it gets pushed outside its design expectations is something that violates your sense of principles, then by all means, fight this battle. It’s nice to know your world is so good that this is the problem you feel needs a crusader.

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Raging? ROFL!
Yeah, I’m flipping out! Asking for the developers to fix their game is
fighting for a hill.

How goes your career as a forum lawyer for Blizzard?

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Still bugged after all those years? This bug exists since WoD or so. Oof.

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January 2021, this bug still exists.

Some notes:

  • Garrosh drops a rare item called Tusks of Mannoroth. It’s about a .25% drop rate with no other way to farm them. As such, the game design and intention is players continue to farm this raid, even today, 7 years later.
  • The same is true for many old raids: rare drops that are intended to be farmed long after the content becomes legacy.

I’ve ran SoO quite a few times now for roughly 6 months, trying to help a bud get the tusks (I do the run and give him the lock-out). We made it a game doing speed-runs, but it’s always frustrating never knowing when the klaxxi will bug out. Sometimes it does, sometimes not.

Putting all other issues aside, if content exists and is clearly intended to be played, yes any bugs should be fixed. This one in particular is quite obnoxious as many classes have no resolution other then hearthing.

Last note: I’m a software engineer and would be embarrassed (and quickly fired) to produce code with a high-visibility bug, then not fix it for 7 years. After farming SoO for a while, I came across this thread and read it out of curiosity, mostly to see if the bug was even being looked it. I had no intention of posting till I read the extremely toxic posts from Zothlar. Also noting two other people who seem to be boot-posting, tho it’s questionable if its just Zothlar with 3 accounts (not that I care). Especially interesting to see Zothlar come back to post angry and rude comments in the same thread for months… and months… and months… and condemning people for the proper way to save precious seconds. In the end, a bug is a bug and should be fixed. It should get reported and should get fixed. End of story. People who go out of their way to report bugs are super appreciated. As an engineer, one of our greatest fears is zero feedback when there’s a problem. As for companies like Activision, yeah, things won’t get done unless enough people say something. Those of you who bothered posting about a bug are ultimately helping everyone. Thank you!

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Seriously all you people have to do is wait for the paragons to stop their monoloques before clicking the amber to start the fight. Which takes less time than Garroshs’.

Talk about first world problems and acting entitled.

If you are doing this, at least for heoric mode, you only need to do it once (first boss up to and including Klaxxi). Don’t be in the instance when your friend defeats Garrosh and you can extend the lockout for next week (and every week after). Mythic though you cannot do that as mythic uses the ID lockout system.

Or you know, just wait for their monoloques to finish. You have to do it for other bosses like Norushen, Spoils and Garrosh.

You sound like if you don’t defeat Paragons within those “precious seconds” you will die.

Grow up.

Then report it on the bug forums and or make an in game bug report. The dungeon, raids and scenario forums are not the bug report forums. Reporting bugs is what the bug forum is for. In fact I doubt blizzard actually reads this forum. Also there is a simple work around that literary only takes like 10 seconds or so of waiting.

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Clearly that’s not the case here. Pretty sure your subjective experience doesn’t apply.

Which part of his responses were “extremely toxic”? Honestly, I don’t think you know what that word means if you describe these responses as toxic. Just because he’s not babysitting someone’s feelings doesn’t mean it’s toxic behavior. It’s embarrassing that you think that is toxic behavior when there are people using “autistic” as an insult on this very thread.

Condemning people? Really? Look at what people are saying to prompt a more direct tone. You act like he’s just throwing insults at innocent people. Angry & rude are hardly what’s taking place on here. Re-think your definition for these terms in addition to “toxic”.

Furthermore, “precious seconds” pretty much describes what you’re arguing about. You could just wait a few seconds before you start attacking and there is no issue. Seriously, I do it it all of the time. I don’t have this issue because I don’t go mashing keys too fast.

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That’s ridiculous. The game design and intention is for the content to be available for players to continue farming, but raids are designed and intended for the players during the current content window.

I explained the conditions that will cause it to bug out in the third post. They’re not difficult. I’m alarmed that a software engineer has been unable to figure out the cause of something that a pleb like me sorted out on my first time seeing the problem.

I acknowledged in my 4th post that maybe it should be fixed, but that there is a more pragmatic solution available than expecting a fix which, realistically isn’t coming. There are phase transition bugs like this going back to bosses years older than MoP, and they haven’t been addressed. You are welcome to crusade here on a discussion forum about the principle of the issue, and keep bugging them out to your frustration, or you can stop pushing buttons for a few seconds. It’s your choice.

Let’s make sure you’re comparing apples to apples here. Would you be fired if you were asked to produce code for a product that worked within the design parameters you were given for the time period it’s meant to be active, even if bugs were discovered at places you didn’t test because it wouldn’t be relevant?

Raid encounters aren’t tested to see if they can handle a group one shotting a boss during a phase transition, because that isn’t a realistic scenario during the window of intended use. This shouldn’t require explanation for someone who designs software.

There’s nothing toxic about giving people a reliable workaround to something that people are obviously having trouble with.

Yes…anyone who agrees with me must be me. Do you have any other conspiracy theories you’d like to share?

Yes, it’s very interesting that when a thread shows up at the top of the page that I should notice and comment on it. Especially when I’m specifically tagged by the person who resurrected it, placing an alert for me to see on my account. Very suspicious indeed…

And you think the place to do this is a discussion forum with no developers in it? The point of mentioning it the forum is to see if other people are having a similar experience and if there is a known work around. The actual fix comes from bug reports, either in game or in the bug report forum. Are you sure you’re a software engineer?

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2/20/21

This fight still bugs horribly.

I’ve been doing this fight for about two years now weekly.
I wait for the RP.
I single target down each bug one at a time after the first 3 have come down.
It can still RANDOMLY bug out with the last guy deciding he doesn’t wanna come down anyway.

Not sure what else I can do if I’m already waiting for the RP to finish and waiting for the first 3 to be hitting me. Just hearthing and trying again.

Found this post and figured it wouldn’t hurt to give an update.

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Bugged out for me twice here too.

On my DK. I can’t even death gate out of there. Apparently I didn’t have the foresight to wait around for a specific amount of time and then attack them in a specific order. so now i guess i’m stuck here forever, my bad :woman_shrugging:

at least my $15 a month may not have gone towards more customization but instead went towards fixing things. hmm,

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If you happen to get stuck on this bug with Hisek, just try and run into a corner out of his fov, this reset the encounter for me.

June 2021 and this bug still exists… c’mon this is bs

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It will exist in June 2022, 2023, 2024, etc.

You can complain about it here if that makes you feel better, or you can follow the steps that have been outlined earlier in the thread to completely circumvent the problem.

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