No, short their stock.
Your subs will be negligible, a coordinated short tanking their stock price a chunk will have immediate financial implications for the CEO.
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I think a lot of people would have been happy if they just gave us 6 weeks to earn this stuff like they did before.
Why are they angry? Because they had plans to do something for fun that Blizzard directly, by choice, ruined.
Plus the value of the gear is nearly dead compared to mid-Vanilla. It’s good gear to start TBC with. And on top of that you act like that 3 months is just basic sht, a portion of it is no-lifing where a lot of people cannot do that.
Not arguing with you, just stating bro.
(Also an add in, it’s PVP with the new talents, something fresh, and the gear was rewarding for it at the same time)
I mean, it was doomed to fail because blizzard’s been cultivating the paying playerbase for almost a decade now.
People acted like it was one of the first steps on the slippery slope, when we’re long since at the bottom.
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Oh you, you know what you’re doing.
Yes and no.
People believed Classic was going to be treated better because it was somehow Blizzard seeing the errors and wanting to learn from Classic. And then with TBC they showed their true colors after they sent the Trojan Horse of “Some Changes” through the portal.
Many people accepted it welcomingly not realizing why people were angry back in WLK about sparkle pony. Effectively those crying that WoW was dying for over a decade were correct just a decade too early. Even then it’s not going to go down quickly, they’ll keep it up. Some “good customer” stuff here and there to appease what’s left while they tie in more shop items.
Eventually I can see this game becoming full on Pay to win if they keep this kind of stuff going, but not for at least 1-2 years. But I can be EASILY wrong, such is with those making predictions. (Actually more I think of it, this game will likely go Free to Play before that happens. When they end subs, that’s when you know it’s BAD!)
It won’t be more pay to win than retail. So maybe a token eventually.
That said, I can see the token being a lot easier to earn on classic than retail, and that might lower the value of the retail token as a result, so it might not happen. Not sure how the calculus plays out.
Some people consider the token very pay to win, but I think it’s indirect enough. That said, I see all this complaining the same as yelling at a fish for swimming. Fish is gonna swim, birds are gonna fly, MMO makers are going to make profit.
That’s a good question.
My thing is I am seeing some actions that look like them preparing to sell off WoW with planned content ending. Likely within the next 5 years. It might explain why a LOT of the bigger older names suddenly left recently. I bet they were very upset and wanted no part in the death of WoW.
If they get to the point of selling to some company like Gamigo, we’re officially screwed.
While you are very correct, I think the problem is that the company is choosing a path that will be more beneficial for them in the long run and yet harmful to their customers and the game.
I mean honestly? They could very easily raise the monthly subs without too much of a problem, keep a basic store going inside and I mean heck, they could have given Classic it’s own sub instead of tied to retail and earned more off people like me who play both.
They could run the game for it’s players and still make a good profit, but they chose to bulk their numbers up for shareholders and kill it off in a timed death. That’s why people are angry.
my sub is canceled.
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I remember being very mad at nintendo round the wii era when they stopped targetting my demographic to focus instead on family and motion sensor games. It’s not a comfortable feeling, I get it.
But at the end of the day, a business is not its demographic. Those can change.
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Oh of course they can, I agree with you a business is a business. They are making a choice a lot of us disagree with. But it’s a choice they have the right to make in the end.
I mean I just dropped a grand on an absolutely stunning Arthas Statue, I’m a Warcraft fan if there ever was one.
I WILL HOWEVER say this. . .
There is some hope if they decide to sell it, some!
If they decide to sell, a HUGE portion of original Blizzard made their own company. If they see that I wouldn’t be surprised if they made a move to buy it! Heck, I would help crowd fund money just to help them buy it! Because I know they care for WoW, and they will not let it die!
(For others reading this, this is just all guesses and fortune guessing, of course I could be 100% absolutely incorrect in everything I say)
And not just Blizzard. The entire gaming industry.
Think about what the reaction would have been like in 2007 if Blizzard had added a paid character boost to level 58. It seriously would have been unthinkable to do that back then. But now? With gamers these days getting bent over hourly from games they play on their phones?!! Blizzard is still a light-weight compared to what else is out there.
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Absolutely. I have to giggle when people complain about the MTX in blizzard games… it’s very clear they haven’t tried any other recent MMOs.
It is what it is. The box price of games hasn’t really adjusted with inflation, and it’s difficult to increase it now, so they are looking to increase margins with other monetization.
It’s hard to imagine any other MMO on the market limiting boosts to one per account, for example.
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Yeah a lot of gaming companies are making the very same moves, it’s kind of the new generation of gaming companies. More money, less shts given about the product.
It’s why companies like Gamigo exist.
Gamigo specifically buys dying MMOs, kills all 95%+ staff, opens in-game shop to ridiculous standards and doesn’t give any new content outside shop. Then when the game population goes down enough that it stops making money they close the MMO out.
I think we will see the big pic after the WoLk classic. Just small money boost here and there. But WoLK had the biggest player base and they will make ALOT of money off it I believe. who knows might be wow’s last breath.
Ye, can just dispute both the boost and gametime as they made changes to the product i paid for, that by no means are correct.
FFXIV did this back in stormblood tho.
(also how tf do i edit my own concurrent post to make a new reply to a person?)
That’s later than I would expect, but I believe there’s no limit on level boosting or MSQ skipping at the moment.
FF14 is actually the poster boy for MTX in MMO. Need to buy 2 expacs to play current, requires a sub, and a hefty cash shop. It’s also the second most successful MMO behind retail.
Yeah, it makes me laugh where I see some of these hopeless fools trying to tell me that the Slippery Slope has no basis in reality, or some stupid variation of that. I guess they’ve never seen the Retail cash shop?
The playerbase has spoken it seems. Cash shop boosts in Classic WoW? Hey, not a problem.
If these rubes seriously believe Blizzard is going to stop with just one boost per account … I don’t know where they’ve been the past 10 years then. Not on planet Earth, though.
Bow to your corporate overlords.
I don’t work for any corporate