I’m new to Mage and when I stack both (especially when also using Icy Veins as Frost) the rotation is too fast and I end up making rotational mistakes.
Does it make sense to wait the 40s until Time Warp/Lust falls of then cast your own Temporal Warp?
I always wait to cast my second lust because of the same problem that you mentioned. At lust x2 with IV I get gc capped and there seems to be diminishing returns with DPS although I don’t know to what percentage the loss accounts for.
As for your time-piece, I typically save my second lust past the 40 second point to get it to line up with my next IV, gs, rof window for the extra burst included.
I could be completely wrong with this approach because I am in no way even close to a top tier mage but it seems to work better and feel better than stacking them all at the same time.
You stack them as fire, you chain them as frost.
You stack them as arcane as well.
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If you feel like it is too fast to play, then you can do pretty good to keep them separate, but most often I stack both right on top of every other cooldown for max burst damage. There are a few exceptions when you can kind of do better to keep them separate because of a boss fight dynamic that interrupts you too frequently at the start, to make the double haste buff effective. But if you’re going into a fight knowing you’ve got the first 30 seconds open for uninterrupted dmg, then I go full in and stack em both.
I’ve been using Time Anomaly, myself. It’s RNG but the burst of mana comes in handy and trivializes mana management even further which meshes well with my personal play style. I realize I am relying on it as a crutch of sorts and that Temporal Warp is better but I’ve given up on playing the game seriously this expansion.
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Alright I just found out there’s a 100% softcap on Haste which with Icy Veins is the actual reason you don’t double up for it on Frost but do for Fire/Arcane. That makes more sense.
Delaying Temporal Warp to a second Icy Veins seems to work well.
I don’t think you chain them anymore, but happy to be proven wrong. For Frost I’m fairly sure that you now save your personal lust for your next IV or IV/potion/trinket to get the most out of it, unless you can get a 3rd lust in the fight (so 7 minute+ fights).
Fire and arcane you stack them
Frost you chain it W/ IV. Lust + IV on open (do stuff) IV+lust again
Not technically a softcap on haste, 100% is just when the GCD is no longer reduced. Past that cast time is still reduced past that though. For frost we just have far more haste than the other specs, if we didn’t have IV we’d likely double lust (and in some cases we do).
Yes, its based on fight lengths.
- If 4:30 or less you hold temp warp for 2nd IV
- If greater than 4:30 but less than 5:20 you would double lust (just never do this generally)
- If greater than 5:20 and less then 6:30 you’d chain them (use after first expires)
- If greater than 6:30 you’d delay for 2nd IV again
Fight things can change this, on M Sark for instance despite the long fight you’d chain your first lust, as your lust with 2nd IV would overlap the massive haste from going down.
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