Well I think they should. No more toys/potions.
What I mean is to apply rated PVP rules to Epic BGs/Random BGs as well as Brawls.
What do you think?
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No.
Randoms are a fun place to chill and go wild.
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I think world pvp is the place to go wild.
Unrated pvp is meant to be a training field for rated pvp, where new players go to practice and get gear.
Consumables in PVP set an unrealistic expectation and only those in the know would use them to get an advantage over those who don’t use consumables.
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That’s your opinion.
I have a number of friends who predominately play random BGs and wont do rated. They get out the toys before every battle as part of the social thing. And that is what WoW is for them.
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How is it that so many people still don’t know about Battleground Blitz? 
Leave random BGs alone. If you want to avoid that stuff there is a BG format that supports that.
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100%
The majority of players don’t use anything, they don’t even know which consumables are available. I just think it would even the playing field to play rated rules everywhere that is within a instance.
I’m impatient lol, I do blitz often and it is really good. Actually hoping it is rated in season 4. I think one of the reason why it is good is also the rated rules are applied.
IMO, It would benefit Epic bgs.
I mean, you get a bunch of consumables in the bg boxes. So unless they just never even look at them…
Sure, the other stuff, hell I don’t even know what they are. I just use saltwaters and healing potions most of which come out of boxes anyway.
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Nah.
The shared cooldown that they put on a lot of things helped.
Random BGs are a place to get creative. It’s fun digging through a bunch of content to find some cheeky gadgets to play with.
Sometimes certain things do pop up that are a problem. But it seems kind of silly to just want everything disabled rather than have them nerf the outliers.
You can literally make this argument about baseline class abilities though. Like 90% of RBG players don’t even have half their spell book on their bars.
You can also make this argument about gear. A ton of the people in BGs don’t know how to get things crafted or how to itemize.
We shouldn’t cater to people who just want everything they don’t understand pruned from the game. That deep level of knowledge and exploration is a huge draw for a lot of people.
The level of crazy stuff you can get up to in wpvp is already infinitely more insane than anything you can do in random BGs.
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no it isn’t.
thats what rated is for.
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That would be kinda weird tho since they just made them allowed
hell to the nah.
random bgs are a sandbox. one the adults never put the lid on so all the neighborhood cats go poop in it.
try not to get any in your mouth.
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I think all the stuff the grants % damage increase or primary/secondary stat increases should be removed. Maybe remove the defensive stat and healing consumes also. The utility stuff like engineering bombs/tinkers and gliders etc can stay.
I would also be happy to see ilvl scaling similar to bg blitz brawl in the unrated bg modes. It was scaled to 472 at the start of this season and increased to 485 at some point.
No, it isn’t.
Not it’s not. Random existed way before rated. And Randoms are the best place to use all those toys, potions and other tricks.
Stick with rated if don’t like those things.
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Absolutely not. Using “stuff” is part of the fun of randoms. We already have Battleground Blitz for those times you don’t feel like playing that way.
Its unanimous everyone agrees with me!
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You may see it that way but many don’t. Many don’t even bother with rated with it’s stress and frustration due to imbalance and etc.
If you want a training field for rated, do skirmishes.
I would be okay with getting rid of Toys in PvP for the following reasons:
- They wont let me use my Murlock toy in there.
- Premades abuse Toys to induce server lag.
- See option 1
- See option 3
And thats about it, everything else can stay.
I think the one that po’d me the most was the water strider. I went through all the effort to obtain one JUST for battlegrounds. Nope, not gonna happen. You still have to swim across the water. 
Play a DK or hire a shaman to feed you water walking. Problem solved!