both hpal and ret have much better utility than prot. If prot had better utility then it would take number one spot from holy, but there are 15 times less prots on the ladder. Just open up a prot spell book and pvp talents and do the same with holy and ret and tell me what you find thats so op about prot.
There is no reason why a whole role should be left out of a large section of content. Ideally, every single spec (tank, healer, or dps) should be viable in Arena.
The biggest issues with tanks in Arena is that they take the spot of DPS, when they should take the spot of a Healer.
If you pair tanks with healers - you just create livelord dampening comps.
Tanks shouldn’t be able to queue with healers in Arena, and they should be designed to trade their own survivability for team defensive utility. I.e. Taunting a player makes them deal reduced damage to everyone but the Tank. This makes the Tank the primary kill target and allows them to use their personal defense to protect their teammates.
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tanks can FC. tanks in arena are always ultra cancer.
pls remove.
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Alright, then just make druids like us unable to que for pvp in general. Since we are a hot topic right now; Just remove us. Because two of our four specs don’t seem to be wanted; The other two will only be accepted if they get nerfed into oblivion.
Best to just remove their ability to que so all of us can suffer together. As a bear druid I approve; Though Id just leave the game in all honesty. I enjoy being a bear in pvp, take that away and make me play another class? Nah. Ill go to another game, which offers the same classes essentially. (An example is warrior in guild wars 2, is basically warrior here. Just with more movement and faster gameplay.)
It is possible so long as they aren’t also tanky. Otherwise that just drag out games. So if tanks were designed in arena to deal less damage than their DPS counterparts but offered more utility to compensate
This is something that could work but is so big brain it’ll never happen. Just look at the poor state of some specs and you think Blizzard will ever better able to balance something like that? Never
Yes, they should be. In ANY form. This is the only MMO in the history of MMOs where anyone even thought to question such a thing…and it is idiotic.
If the performance of tanks in arenas is an issue, then fix the issues. Dont punish people who play tanks by restricting them from aspects of the game.
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i loved glad stance because i like the idea of a dps using a 1h and shield, it could have been turned into a dps version but nope, it was just removed and poof the ability was gone
to answer your question, its mostly due to poor balancing, whenever a tank becomes viable in arena, it happened more than once, they are either killing machines or undying tanks that makes games last till high dampening simply because they can’t be killed at all
wod had brewmaster monks running around with guard, wotlk had protection warriors and protection paladins using hpal gear, legion had to an extent protection warrior and guardian druids, mop i can recall blood dks being viable, bfa there was a period where guardian druid was really good in 3s because they would never die and absorb a % of teammates partners and sl have protection paladin being the only viable tank in arena and vdh in rbg
Honestly. Tanks should be allowed in PVP. But alot of their utility needs to be negated. They can have their 50k HP. But why does a prop pally need freedom, bop, Bubble, Angel, WOG, and Defender of the ancients? Thats what makes them op.
In the drought BFA provided, I played Warhammer private servers for a month or two.
Horrendous, yet fun in some ways. It made me appreciate WoW that much more, but this isn’t the point.
Warhammer provided some really, really cool ideas with combat. It’s based around BG’s/massive team fights and not small skirmishes. The melee dps were all extremely squishy, so you’d need a true frontline or you’d get rolled.
The frontline was a true tank, or a bruiser type. It was a lot of fun to be a tank/bruiser due to the utility you’d provide. I don’t know how it could translate to WoW, more specifically arena - but it’s a cool idea to play with.
not arena tanks are fine in bgs