I know these carries were not for gold.
The fundamental point being, however, is that if carries were considered “cheating” or in any other unsavory way (modulo carries-for-cash), you (and by “you”, I mean “you Blizzard”) would not be advocating and advertising them.
I am at the point I’d pay for someone to carry me through a + any Shrine of the Storm. It’s literally at 11 tries and 11 fails.
As for achievements, that makes no sense. I’d rather be proud of doing something that was difficult, lucky, or part of during a special event.
What next? Loot boxes of achievements?
Well he achieved farming enough gold to pay for AOTC so guess he achieved something. Lol
If you are paying with gold Blizzard doesn’t care.
It’s not really getting it legitimately if you get it because you were just carried… but…
if I think about it, should it be ok to carry people if it’s done for free?
And if that’s ok, then why isn’t it ok to carry someone for gold?
Wow! What an original topic that has never been brought up or answered on these forums before.
Bravo OP!
I am wondering if blizzard is paying attention as much as they use to All kinds of stuff being sold on eBay from runs to accounts.
Most sales going on right now aren’t AOTC sales. They are gear sales.
My guild does sales once a week to fund mythic progression. We sell 1 slot for each armor type and then trade all gear to our carries. With 20 mains they all basically get 5-6 pieces of loot, and they’ll probably make their gold straight back when we got to AH to buy mats for mythic because most people buying runs have the gold from playing the AH.
People have been paying for various runs with gold from day 1 of this game. It’s most common to see it with raids now but people used to do it with every single dungeon. Blizz doesn’t particularly care as long as real money isn’t exchanged. Tokens are irrelevant since they can’t be traded, only sold on AH so there is no way for the seller to make a real world profit via Blizz balance. All they do is facilitate the buyer to be able to afford the run so yes I guess technically the buyer could pay rl money but it isnt exchanged between the players, and Blizz gets that $20 so why should they care.
If it’s not ‘supported’ by the company them why would you continue to allow them? Instead of outright calling for the termination of the accounts involved in such a transaction? Is it because there’s to many players doing it? Or is it because you get some profit outta it because a good number of those groups use WoW tokens? ![:thinking:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/thinking.png?v=6" ":thinking:")
I think by unsupported he means, if you get “taken advantage of” or feel you got the wrong end of the stick, Blizzard will not interfere and you are on your own.
That is exactly what it means in this case. They don’t care if you do it but if you get burned, they won’t help you.
On my server group we have a guild constantly advertising that sells for real life money. I’ve reported them multiple times but nothing happens, they’re constantly spamming. They’ve made multiple different spammer toons that i ignore but there is another one a couple days later.
A related issue I’ve thought about - where do “subscriber only” carries fall in terms of Blizzard’s stance on “real world buying.” If a streamer is “giving away” a service to users only if they have paid them money, is that not a real money trade?
I would say no. They are not paying for the run. They are paying for subscription to that streamers videos and channel. If by some chance they get into a run with the person, that is not them “buying” a run, since they are not guaranteed to get into one of those runs.
It is like buying one of those candles with a ring in it. “1 in 100 candles has a real diamond ring! The rest are all cubic zirconia or a piece of glass or something”. You are buying the candle. If you end up with a ring worth some money, great. If not, well, it wasn’t what you were buying.
Just to play devils advocate, it’s definitely part of what people are buying in that example, whether they acknowledge that or not.
No reason for them to disapprove. People buy other people’s knowledge and craftsmanship all of the time. In game gold means it is good to go.
Carries for achieves and raid/dungeons should be considered an in game progression.
These people are providing a service for currency so they can go out and buy stuff themselves.
So long as Blizzard keeps putting limited time items behind AOTC then buying a boost should be allowed.
I mostly just see runs being sold for actual cash, transferred through Paypal Accounts. I would really like to see a hardline approach taken against this (IE: Account Bans). This is pretty bad at Moon Guard.