As long as they aren’t taking real world cash-- Blizzard doesn’t care. ![:rainbow:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/rainbow.png?v=6" ":rainbow:")
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Wrong.
You are not buying gold with real money.
You buy a token that is worth 30 days game time with real money. You are buying game time with that real money, just as everyone does.
You then sell that token to someone else for gold in game. Virtual item (token) for virtual item (gold), in game.
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But you are literally the one that brought up IRL cash to begin with. -_- I simply responded to it why I thought bringing up irl cash in regards to my question makes your whole irl cash thing invalid.
It literally has everything to do with it, because if providing a virtual thing to do a virtual thing is suddenly “cheating”, then it brings into question a LOT of things endorsed by Blizz and is probably why Blizzard doesn’t ban it.
If crafters can make gold crafting, gatherers can play the AH, and ERPers can do their thing for gold, then I don’t think it’s at all unreasonable for characters who fight to sell the skills they’ve developed to other players for gold.
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But what difference does it make where they spend the gold if they bought that much of it? Blizzard is the one getting paid for the coins to convert to gold, what they do with the gold is still virtual to virtual as in the recieving end sold for gold not real life money.
Also i personally dont care if someone bought it with gold, people buy boe items off the AH all the time. If they want to spend that money thats their decision, if they make that much gold then nice cause i suck and making gold lol.
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Also people bought feats and raid runs way before the token came out, how do you know that theyre all buying gold thru the token and using it on those runs?
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It sure seems like your original premise is false.
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Everyone earns AOTC. They’ve worked to acquire or hone the items or skills that secure them their spot in a raid.
Tend to your own level of involvement and how you obtained your achievements and let others do the same.
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I’m sure for some it does, but not for me. In fact my guild sold mount runs at the end of WoD. We made enough to pay for our repairs for more then one xpac.
Well yeah, It does, but that doesn’t make it cheating. The punishment should always match the crime and calling something cheating implies it should be a bannable offense. Diminishing the value of an achievement is no where near a bannable offense. And Bliz is in the business of making money, they are already having problems with keeping subs up without pruning their customer base for stupid stuff like that when it really hurts no one.
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I really dislike it personally, but I dont really consider it cheating. You are taking a risk when you use sometimes shady outside services for the game so thats on the people that choose to do it.
A blue just posted yesterday I believe that he made a lot of gold selling carries so pretty sure blizzard is just fine with it.
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They’re OK with the concept, but it’s an unsupported transaction–which means they won’t step in if someone welches on the deal.
But the thread isn’t about how Ythisens feels about it. It’s about how you feel about it. Personally, I’m OK with the general concept of people paying gold for a seat in a run through or something of that nature. I’m very, very against people paying real life money for it. Somewhere in there is a line I’m not happy with.
I don’t think there should be mini-businesses inside of WoW. Conceptually, there’s some problems with that for me–mostly dealing with the misuse of someone else’s intellectual property. If there were a licensing fee involved? I might have less of a problem with it. I don’t really know.
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Should Selling/Buying AOTC or other Raid/PVP Achievements Be Cheating?
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completely agree. Blizz muddied the waters a bit with the token sales though. someone can buy a bunch of tokens, convert their dollars to gold then use that gold to buy a carry. that’s technically within the bounds of the ToS.
At the end of the day, I don’t have a problem with it as long as the transaction from player to player happens in in-game gold.
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As far as Blizzard is concerned, it does apply.
I was addressing the how does blizzard feel about it part of it… If they frowned on it I don’t think a blizzard employee would be on here saying they made a lot of gold from doing it.
I don’t have a problem with it.
This causes people to purchase WoW tokens which is great for ATVI’s bottom line. You can bet your bananas that the apes in charge at Activision want to see positive growth indicators in the lagging Blizzard segment.
So, someone wants to spend $60 of their money to get “AOTC” a few months late? Not a problem. Same reason they don’t care if you buy 40 WoW subscriptions and multibox to grief people with your personal army of paladins.
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Exactly this, You may like or hate it but ultimately if even Blizz employees do it It’s not cheating.
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P2win was more subtle in WoD but by the end of Legion WoW was blatant, in-your-face p2win. You could buy mount runs, achievement runs, m+ runs, heroic and mythic raid runs on almost every server. Before then, it was limited mostly to the highest pop realms.
As long as in-game gold is used to pay for in-game services, Blizzard doesn’t care. Especially if it results in more WoW token sales. ![:wink:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/wink.png?v=6" ":wink:")