Should, "Sap," be Allowed in 2s Arena?

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Discuss the move, “sap,” in 2s arena.

Against rogues. “Get into combat as soon as possible to avoid getting sapped.”

Don’t trink and wait it out > watch teammate get destroyed.

Trink outta sap > get blinded > you’re CC’d again.

But what happens when you play against two rogues or a rogue + class with invis?

Is sap too strong?

Now I know this might be hard to understand, but I see people trying their hardest to make this post about me, personally.

This question isn’t about me or my class or my team comp. This question isn’t about me, at all.

This post is about the ability, “Sap.”

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It’s a mechanic thats been part of the game since day 1. It’s on par with most other cc’s by all classes. Many battles are won by the one who gets the first hit or can take one out of the picture.

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Nothing wrong with sap. If you’ve got an ability in your toolbelt and it’ll help, use it. Like you said, get into combat ASAP to avoid it.

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Look here … you have 2 option leave sap like it is , or make it useable whenever … pick one but its here to stay

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As much as I want sap nerfed to oblivion, I don’t think removing it from Arena is a good thing either.

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I’m of a similar mindset but I believe it needs adjusting.

The move is too strong, unfortunately.

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Nothing wrong with sap, leave it alone. Improvise and adapt to overcome.

Semper Fi! :us:

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Sap isn’t too strong. The problem is the type of game play currently encouraged via things like Master Assassin and the current comps rogue runs. Fix the issues involving Master Assassin and the overall tuning of rogue, coupled with the idea that we’re in early season which means plenty of people are fighting people they shouldn’t be (for one reason or another) and rogue will be fixed.

This expansion has a lot of situations in which people should trinket something they shouldn’t, especially in the 2’s bracket, such as ret pally blind, and rogue sap depending on comp and available outs.

Depending on the comp you and your wife are running, you also have certain counters available depending on what’s going on. I’m also a personal advocate that class stacking shouldn’t exist, but that’s just me.

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I’m sorry bro, but I think we’re going to have to give it a little nerf to bring it in line with other CCs.

Just because it’s been around forever doesn’t mean it doesn’t need adjusting.

Things change and the game evolves. I think the game needs to get away from this degenerate gameplay.

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It is in line with other CC’s. Sap is on the incap DR, and DR’s with all forms of incap. It is not “out of line” involving other CC’s.

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Being sapped sucks. But good CC and burst is kind of what the rogue brings to the table.

I would rather they tackle some of the bigger issues WoW arena has such as gatekeeping, boosting, tank nonviability, etc etc.

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sap isn’t the problem…it’s the chained cc, particularly stun, that doesn’t seem to get affect from dr

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It is in line with the others, you should already know that. And don’t tell me you, a paladin, can’t get out of sap nearly anytime you want, I play a paladin too, and every other class for that matter. Know your enemies, learn their strengths and weaknesses then minimize their strengths and exploit their weaknesses. Improvise and adapt to overcome, and never, ever stop.

Semper Fi! :us:

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Yes , its funny :rofl:

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Yeah, for sure the arena needs an overhaul to make things a little more fair.

Healers in 2’s ought to be reconsidered or moved to a separate bracket or possibly adjusted to dampen the healing.

Tank viability should be considered as well.

And boosting is a really big problem.

The arena needs adjustments to get with the times.

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OP died in PvP to a rogue.

To the forums!

Who asked you what you think, though?

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I think everyone’s died to a rogue.

Literally. Everyone.

Yup, if you look at my post count you’ll see that I come to the forums to discuss new ideas and debate others.

I disagree with everything Shadina says, normally, but respect his knowledge of PvP.

That’s what forums are for; discussion and interaction.

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Probably because sap is so damn overpowered. Probably the most broken ability in WoW history.

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I think the more important question should be: “Should Seduction and Fear share Diminishing Returns”

Because honestly, even though Rogues are mainly about burst and control, I kinda find Sap and Blind not sharing Diminishing Returns is a bit unfair to the two abilities above.

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I don’t know about that.

What I do know is that moves like Bloodlust and Lay on Hands were deemed too powerful for arena and were disabled.

So maybe other things should be considered, too.

Discuss. Debate.

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