Should M+ valor stay capped until

Whats a “real” season?

I’m fine with it being capped to prevent degenerate grinding. But 750 is way too low.

No i dont do mythic raid and im tired of waiting on these nerds.

I have things to upgrade

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Sure would benefit the lowbies doing low keys, since all the 2.5k io players would rush 2-5 keys for valor like in SL if there was no cap

Costs doesn’t increase at all by level.

A ring is a flat 250 per upgrade. Weapon is 1k per upgrade.

Never use valor on weapons, it’s dumb.

I’d be spamming keys all the time if they uncapped valor (just like I did in the later seasons of SL). It helps me improve to greater challenges, and helps the people I run with at the same time (give them all the gear (“lol. what gear”-- DF) and give them tips/pointers if they haven’t run the dungeons that much).

What an absolute load of made up rubbish. The only thing “outfitting” the heroic raider is all the M+/M+ vault loot he’s gotten while getting nothing from need rolls every week.

If we uncap valor i demand we uncap Conquest as well.

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I dont think it should ever be uncapped personally at least not until the next set of raid tier and loot becomes available and then leave it uncapped only for a short time.

If you make it uncapped now you make a very exclusive set of people further themselves apart from the casual group of people.

I think overall uncapping it is bad because then if you arent over 410 ilvl you arent getting into higher keys. I find it hard to even get into 16s right now at 401.

I just feel overall it would be bad and make M+ more exclusive than it already is for the harder content

If you can still get upgrades from doing higher keys, you shouldn’t be complaining about VP cap, push harder content.

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Was gonna say at the end of the day fully upgraded valor gear pales in comparison to mythic raid gear including trinkets and tier. Some people ITT clearly are butthurt about it though.

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No. I’m really close to 2400. I need the valor cap lifted asap.

Its hard to guarantee a drop from medium-high effort pugging keys level 15-20 for a chance for a weapon to drop. Sometimes spamming 10s is just the most effective way

It’s not rubbish but okay. Manic grieftorch is manic grieftorch man

If you’re at the 20 level, spamming 15s-16s is easy.

Just the gap between 18 and 16 is big.

You should definitely not be upgrading items you got in a 10. And you should definitely not be upgrading Weapons, ever.

It should never be capped, OR it should be refundable in some way so you can re-earn it if you get an upgraded piece at a higher ilvl from a drop/vault/etc.

I don’t understand what you are arguing. This topic is about how valor should probably be uncapped and you’re basically saying valor shouldn’t be spent ever unless it’s over 400ilvl.

There aren’t many players who can reliably clear 17-18 on spam. So essentially, you’ve argued that valor shouldn’t be spent until a player gets to that level. It’s just a silly stance to take defending a game design the playerbase at large actively dislikes

Fully upgraded valor gear is 415 which is the same as 4/8 mythic raid bosses and once the catalyst is out can be turned into tier.

Not sure how that “pales”

The point of valor, per the blue post when it was introduced, was to solve a problem where players would reach a point where they only had upgrades coming from the vault.

This was a way to make EoD gear something that could be improved as well, with the idea that once you’ve reached a point where you can’t push higher (either at the reward cap or your individual skill cap) and your only upgrades are from the vault you can spend valor on your EoD gear for more upgrades.

So those people should keep progressing until they can clear higher key, a guild stuck on normal/heroic raid cant upgrade their full set of gear to mythic ilv just by doing normal, m+ players shouldn’t be able to spam +2 and upgrade every slot.