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I think their set bonus coupled with all the talents that buff BD/DS/throw glaive needs to be looked into. BD/DS doing too much for 1 button.
It’s a 50% snare, it’s a 10% magic dam debuff, it’s an AoE mortal strike (or shield), it’s huge ST burst damage, it’s AoE damage, it’s TWO different DoTs all from 1 ability.
They have 3 buttons and top arena damage, yes.
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Yes. Mostly because their defensives are too good. Their damage would be manageable if you could create meaningful counter pressure.
DH are getting into a VERY rare territory of being… potentially less targeted then even some healers. Far right column. Source: 2100+ RSS
lol… can’t make this stuff up.
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I think that number is heavily skewed because of all the lower rated lobbies.
Lower rated players do not understand or track the short immunity frames.
People go me and I will die in about 10 seconds, but I vengeful retreat and hit meta. They decide I am immune and can’t be killed so they just stop going me.
I suck and sub rogues get me to trinket blur in opener with stun and smoke bomb. Then they ignore me the rest of the match. But all they have to do is blind healer and kidney me when they have offensive cds again. But they decide to go after someone else and never touch me again it seems like. A 2300 exp outlaw rogue that was moving up the ladder with my lobby killed me every game 2nd go.
yeah i agree nerf DH
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its not philosofy.
thats a bit disingenieuse
That’s 2100+. DH targets go down as rating goes up.
All ratings: 22.1%
0 - 1399: 29.3%
1400 - 1799: 24%
1800 - 2099: 19.9%
2100+: 17.4%
Sub does that to lots of specs/classes. Nothing unique to DH.
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So what you are saying is nerf Sub, buff others?
DH has the 14th highest win percentage above 2100 for all dps specs.
Dh has the 2nd highest win percentage 1400-1799 for all dps specs.
Which is sort of what I was saying, they should try to kill the DH more at lower ratings.
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Nerf tattoos plz.
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Yea man, buff DH.
If you think so, maybe they should, I wouldn’t know. I didn’t say either way buff or nerf.
And it shows blood dk with an 80% win rate and enhance stats are 90% from 1 player. We need to put on our thinking caps here and ask ourselves what might be going on at 2100+ to cause the most repped dps spec above 2400 to have a near 50% win ratio. Could it be the vast majority have reached their ceiling and are just 50/50’ing in perpetuity between 24-2800 cr? I think it’s possible.
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Yes please let’s put on our thinking caps!
You’d need to explain your point. In case you missed mine it was you can’t blindly accept these statistics as there’s a lot of nuance that goes into them.
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I think my point was, I said for all dps specs. You then said blood dk has an 80% win rate. Blood dk is a tank spec.
If you take out the enhance stats. It’s 13th highest win percentage above 2100 for DPS specs. 2nd highest win percentage 1400-1799 for DPS specs.
You had replied to a post that I made that was a reply to a reply of an earlier post, that I had made. I had said that I think people kill the DH less in lower ratings becuase they do not understand/track immunity frames and they get confused and stop dpsing the DH.
ding ding ding
I would guess that there is a sharp drop off around 2100-2300 range for all the first time 2100 players.
No my friend, DH needs nerfs.
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But the point isn’t to directly compare BDK and DH win rates. It was to point out that Blood DK is obviously not that insane of a spec and these numbers need to be understoood in light of what’s really going on behind them.
Again this doesn’t mean anything without understanding the full context of the situation that these stats are coming from. It may very well be most of the DH’s are 2600+ while most of the other specs are not therefore making it harder for them to continue having a high win rate. Again I am just pointing out potential reasons a very dominant spec like DH could appear to have a “worse” win rate. There’s probably others as well.
I don’t think this has anything to do with our current discussion.
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