Should Deadly Boss Mods and/or Weak Auras be Banned?

Ok. Supply the proof.

Give me a specific encounter that it tells me what ability to use. I am genuinely curious and want to see this in action.

When I did M+ dungeons that required people to cycle through interrupts, the leader would call out who’s turn it was to interrupt. If I had no addons installed it wouldn’t have required any more thought to do the boss.

No, it isn’t doing it for you. But people right here are arguing it doesn’t tell you to use abilities.

Anyway, I don’t have a problem with the AH change. I wouldn’t mind that and the DBM change because I think DBM trivializes some encounters.

Then again, plenty of players can’t manage to interrupt stuff even with DMB, so I guess its a wash.

Well, if you look at their changelog it will even tell you which interrupts have been added or removed.

Go tank Yazma in Atal’Dazar, it will tell you to interrupt and tel you when to use active mitigation. It won’t mention specific abilities; but “interrupt now” is pretty darn specific.

It also tells you to break LOS for Razan’s fear and to move to pools of infected blood for Alun’za, and when to interrupt Vol’kaal.

DBM saves Blizzard dev time in actually making encounters communicate well with the players what abilities are doing. FFXIV has a great battle notification system. You know exactly what’s going to happen in a fight. If you have a debuff on you that requires stacking, it has a very clear visual indicator that you need to stack. Spread out? clear indicator. Areas that are dangerous? clearly marked. etc

Only in WoW can you be uncertain if you’re too close to the bad or not because it has a weird inconsistent cloudy effect that’s the same color as the floor.

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Yeah, and that’s a shame because with the crutch in place blizzard has no reason to change it - until someone gives them one, then it will be ugly.

All of this information is in the dungeon journal. DBM isn’t revealing any secrets.

Please don’t.

No, but it is obviating reading the journal.

Frankly, I liked things better when you had to actually read the quest text, but people like not reading.

Hell, Method BOUGHT Weakauras yesterday. Wago IO is now owned by Method.

You should provide some specifics on this case. To just rattle off a few:

  • Interrupt ability or spell.
  • Taunt notification at X debuff stacks.
  • Use active mitigation and/or defensive cooldown for big attack.
  • As noted, get out of the metaphorical fire. Mostly the patches that are already on the ground.

It seldom points out the specific ability, just the generic course of action. Most of these are examples from tanking, which is what I was doing when I tried out DBM during WoD. Other roles may receive fewer prompts than tanks, but that’s what I remember.

That being said, I ended up turning it off for being both annoying to update and the constant annoying pop-ups during battles. That and I didn’t need them for what I was doing.

Might as well earn money from the clicks generated by the WAs they create.

Perhaps, someone arguing it doesn’t do these things clearly hasn’t used it recently. Like, in years.

Yet you are complaining about them reading. Just not what you personally want them to read.

BTW I am curious, so doing a heroic atal run to get to yazma.

DBM will also give you audio countdowns, place a big fat warning in the center of the screen, and even has audio warnings for movement and such.

Saying that DBM requires the same level of planning and reading comprehension as the adventure journal is a big stretch.

I dont care about those. I want to specifically see bigwigs tell me what ability to use.

I’m pretty sure blizz now designs the game around assuming people have these addons. So probably no.

Weak Auras is just an amazing piece of software. You can do so much with it. I’d really be against banning this.

Yes, let’s ban absolutely every quality of life mod out there and make the learning curve for dungeons and raids as steep as we can so people can be even more elitist when it comes to them.

Speaking as a mostly casual player, that sounds absolutely awesome! Who doesn’t have a 100 hours a week to waste on dungeons/raids?

Best plan ever


I’m still waiting for the updates to the game that were supposed to follow after they removed the “crutches” of Augmented Virtual Reality, oQueue, and World Quest Group Finder.