10/31/2018 06:10 PMPosted by
Scruit 10/31/2018 05:25 PMPosted by
Rhun Blizzard made this change for someone and im trying to locate who and how many people think that it shouldn't be.
they did if for themselves.
not flying means people spend more time getting to places and killing the stuff in between, inflating the time played metrics. while also drawing out what little there is to do in game with travel time.
if they could get away with it they'd remove flying completely because the current team cant handle designing zones with flying in mind like back in BC/WotLK.
I’m positive they still secretly wish they could axe flying all together. This is the same dev team that seriously tried to in WoD and was forced to go back on it because of the overnight, epic tidal wave of outrage by the playerbase. I’m sure the only reason Ion and others didn’t get the pink slip from that stunt was because they went back on it, and they decided that delaying Pathfinder for as long as possible was the next best thing for their agenda.
10/31/2018 06:13 PMPosted by
Erixi 10/31/2018 04:59 PMPosted by
Rhun Should 8.1 have pathfinding part 2? Or is it too soon?
What part of TOWARDS THE END OF THE EXPANSION do people not get?
Sorry but 5 threads a day on the front page of the forums is beating a dead horse to much. It won't change and is unneeded.
When exactly did Blizzard say towards the end of the expansion? All of your bold underline caps aren't making your BS anymore believable
10/31/2018 04:59 PMPosted by
Rhun Should 8.1 have pathfinding part 2? Or is it too soon?
It all depends on whether they can design the content for 8.2 and so on with flight in mind.
Because if they can't, if they're designing that assuming no flight, then we
will suffer if we get it too soon, in order to meet their own non-negotiable participation metrics.
Do you want flight only in the pre-8.1 content, and the entire rest of the expansion to be like Argus? Just be careful what you wish for.
Only the first week was too soon. Its so long overdue by this point.
It should.
But it won't.
Yep. And after the list of chores to get pathfinder part i the final snicker from blizz for pthfinder ii?.....comes out so late that you are like "oh cool i can fly now....over zones ive seen dozens of times to continue to repeat content I've done a thousand times...thanks blizz...you finally let me have flying when i almost have to force myself to play the expansion...neato..."
10/31/2018 04:59 PMPosted by
Rhun Should 8.1 have pathfinding part 2? Or is it too soon?
Too late. I got sick of waiting 2 weeks into BfA.
I'm entirely done with pathfinder. It sucks. If flying is gone at max level so am I.
Bye.
I'm personally quite happy with pathfinder. Its a nice compromise for being able to properly experience the content and see all there is to see without abolishing flying completely. The requirements are pretty loose too, like its not hard at all to get Revered with all factions, you have plenty of time to do it and questing gets you most of the way there anyway. Plus its account wide so once you do it once you can fly on all your alts regardless of level or progression.
Older content like WoD and Legion should definitely have the restrictions loosened, I got those while they were current but I do feel for people who didn't, no one likes having to farm large portions of irrelevant content like that.
And maybe Blizz could allow flying on current content a little bit earlier, sure. Opening flying up at the start of 8.1 feels about right for me. Just make the requirement be finishing that 8.1 war campaign and it should be enough. I mean of course it won't be in 8.1, it'll be 8.2 like how we got flying in 7.2 and 6.2, but yeah.
Honestly flying is way too broken a tool and probably shouldn't have ever been implemented, at least not as open and free as it is, but you can't put the cat back in the bag now so pathfinder is a fair compromise. Not perfect by any means, but better than the absolute "no flying ever" or "be able to fly immediately" paths they could have taken.
10/31/2018 05:26 PMPosted by
Cynthyx I would prefer that instead if having to wait till 6-8 months. I've already seen the environemet.
Correction: by now we’ve seen the environment and done the content ten times over. Part 1 should unlock flying in all content available at BfA launch. Part 2 can unlock flying for the next batch of current content. So on and so forth.
I agree with that but I just don't see them doing that anytime soon. So at the very least they should stop with the massive timegate.
As others have stated, are developers avoiding the zones like Nagrand or Storm Peaks.
Seems like BC and Wrath were ahead of the time, and then it's like...no no..what we need is a giant razor sharp conglomerate of canyons with linear routes and chokepoints.
Nothing cooler than playing Nagrand, which oddly reminds me of like a DBZ fighting area, and sit on my own personal floating rock. I think we need like a tower of Babel zone that's more like Coldarra and we work toward climbing to the top and then unlock flying.
10/31/2018 05:48 PMPosted by
Woops 'm more concerned about the apparent fact that there are no plans to stock this fantastic open world with relevant content befitting it -- content that would make me care more about the time and effort of travel. But stocking the world with relevant content would require innovation ...
Oh I agree
Ive looked at Legions world content and then BFA..theres no comparison.
Two pet battles. Two. The rest is all azerite or 325..... (325 gear, REALLY?). Very little variety.
BFA and WOD now share two things in common.
1.
A pitiful and total lack of any real world content because we are back to "raid, pvp, mythics or GTFO" . Look at the Drustvar map. LOOK AT IT. Three quarters of the map is empty of anything.
Not even any fishing quests.....No craft quests, no pet battle trainers, no questlines, no Suramar equivalent, no overworld content to progress your character because you are funnelled into instances....
and
2.
No flight.We did this in WOD. Remember?
It didnt work then and it is failing now.
At least flight gives me some incentive to be out more often...instead of looking at some fp and realising I have to hoof it halfway across a zone to do
one quest.
The lack of flight would not be an issue if there was enough world content to keep us engaged.Only : THERE ISNT.
So: why is it we cant fly?
Nope, not yet. We are just hitting the first content patch.
Just wait for Pathfinder Part 3.
Pathfinder will not come until we find the next mysterious island in a couple patches that has eluded our fleets and airships for all these years.
There never should have been a part 2 to begin with. The wait is just a petty spiteful move by the devs to punish players for not letting them outright remove flying going forward.
Anyone who has pathfinder part 1 done SHOULD already be flying.
Would prefer if there was no Pathfinder and we could just buy it like the old days. I enjoy the game much more when I can fly.
BFA has A LOT of flaws.....the art is not one of them. Making us wait awhile and actually see every detail of the hard work the team put in is justified. If you could just buy it, a lot of things would never be seen or appreciated.
Also this way, people cant just power level up then fly, they actually have to play the game and experience the story.
10/31/2018 05:30 PMPosted by
Varla One thing I've noticed that without flying I'm not playing as much. Every time I use a flight path - and that's a lot, since I can't fly on my own, I alt tab out and surf the net for a bit. It cuts down on the momentum, and I end up logging out pretty quickly since I'm not really engaged with the game.
So, yeah, I'm hoping for earlier rather than later flight, but like other posters, I don't think it will happen any time soon.
This is me to a T. I'll go downstairs for a beer and not come back up for hours.
Yes if its not in 8.1 and we have to wait even longer I'm gonna be pissed. At least I'll have flying unlocked in Legion for the class mounts before then only good thing.
10/31/2018 09:00 PMPosted by
Knubli 10/31/2018 05:30 PMPosted by
Varla One thing I've noticed that without flying I'm not playing as much. Every time I use a flight path - and that's a lot, since I can't fly on my own, I alt tab out and surf the net for a bit. It cuts down on the momentum, and I end up logging out pretty quickly since I'm not really engaged with the game.
So, yeah, I'm hoping for earlier rather than later flight, but like other posters, I don't think it will happen any time soon.
This is me to a T. I'll go downstairs for a beer and not come back up for hours.
this is me aswell but i just tab out and watch news from preach & others. usually i tab back in every 10-20 mins, nudge my char forward so not to logout from afk and then tab back out. probably watched more wow related content than playing the past few weeks. Really hoping blizzcon delivers some good news.
Yes.
I'd still like to know why they make us wait so long. Imerrrssiioonnnnn!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! blech
Just let us start it in 8.1. Let's compromise, eh?
Ion, I have come to bargain.