I honestly disagree with increasing the range of Augvoker or Devoker.
Now, Prevoker? Range has been a bit weird with that spec since implementation. Just jumping them to a 40yd range may not be the fix people think it would be to their issues with the spec, but it would make for some quality of life for healing.
I would agree with Pres specifically, as a healer has to deal with not only mechanics but dumb people who can’t position properly. Aug and Dev should stay as is.
I largely agree here, though I think for the same reasons as healer, prescience and bscales should get 40yds as well.
prescience should not. It’s part of the tax on aug damage. Wish 30 yards remained for pres too.
Give us more mobility gimmicks.
Very fine with this.
Give us move speed while EM is active, or much lower cd on VE to targets with EM.
Chrono Warden will honestly do a great job of making our hover uptime incredible though.
why bring evoker that needs babysitting range issues rather than just any other healer with 45 yard range?? pros/cons design philosophy works when others share similar cons; but other healers have been optimised over past 20 years to remove those ‘cons’ and you’re left with a class that has limitation put for ‘reasons’.
While mobility gimmicks would help, I don’t think Preservation is tuned to where having access to 40yd healing range would really be a problem.
There really isn’t one because Preservation isn’t an OP healer either. It’s not like you’re getting superior heals for bringing a short range healer
You could play that stupid game with any class outside of the current meta; don’t be daft. Class and spec are irrelevant for 95% of the content most people do in game.
Healers don’t have 45 yard range, and Resto druid has fewer kills on end bosses. So, maybe this is a joke pointing out how range alone isn’t enough.
I’m not sure if you’re understanding pros/cons as a concept, lol.
Having all of the same pros and cons means there’s no class diversity and everything plays the same, which is awful for the game.
Pres plays a lot differently than many healers, and definitely has more mobility as a “pro” than other healers.
List all of the healers with 45 yards.
Preservation does plenty of healing, has great CD’s for raid mechanics, and it’s getting buffs on Tuesday.
The bigger question is why post this on an alt and a hidden account? Where is your evoker that is doing such crazy content there’s “no reason” to take it vs a healer with more range?
Honestly the number is probably higher than this, lol.
rather want to see a resto druid doing crazy things. Only healer with 46 yard range. Presence of r druid is still low on Fyrakk.
None of that changes that it has a clear disadvantage vs other healers. The range issue is even more pronounced on pres because group members move around a lot and you need to keep track of them to heal. You can’t park within range of the boss and be ok like dev or Aug.
The character he’s posting on is irrelevant, his post brings up a valid question. Why should you bring a healer that doesn’t out heal other healers, brings nothing super unique, and has a 10 yard handicap other healers do not?
Very happy that Blizz actually acknowledged the ranged restriction is an issue for Pres. Hoping that means they might be looking at expanding the range properly in the upcoming xpac, but my fingers aren’t crossed.
On many occasions I’ve agreed that it needs full range.
That doesn’t change that it’s perfectly good in most of the content in the game.
I’m a bit surprised they’re throwing more throughput/survivability at it vs range, but will be interested to see where it takes it.
I don’t want more range. Give us everything but that. It’ll just be a tax, like how Disc priest needs to stand still, paladins and monks benefit from melee.
I generally avoid having to heal at all times so I’ll leave it to the pres boiz.
The issue is exacerbated by a couple of other factors, too:
Don’t @ me with some “other players need to adjust how they play with a Pres healer” nonsense, either. Players shouldn’t have to massively change how they play because one healer has some arbitrary limitation the other six healers don’t have. That’s bad design and you cannot change my opinion on that.
But evokers have more ability to heal while moving compared to others.
Classes are different.
Like stacking together for chain heal (r shaman.)
Yes, and no. With hover Evoker has access to a handful of spells while moving (all limited by lack of range), while simultaneously needing to stand still for other parts of its toolkit due to the design of empowered abilities (literally stationary).
Verdant Embrace is a death trap that is used for Lifebind heals more than actual mobility, which is a flaw of its design. In theory it’s a good movement tool, in practice it’s often a death sentence.
It doesn’t help that the non-clustered heals Evoker has access to (Lifebind, Reversion) have all been systematically nerfed since S1/2, leaving it only with highly location-based heals (Blossom, TA, DB).
It also doesn’t help that many dungeon bosses have had simultaneous moments of requiring high movement, high incoming damage, and spreading out to handle a mechanic. Runic Brand in HoV, Archmage Sol in Everbloom requiring a “bait” for the arcane orb pull, etc. Off the top of my head Raging Tempest, Kyrakka, and watcher Irideus are all bosses that required players to fan out for certain mechanics with periods of high damage and high mobility, and spells like DB/EB are too cumbersome to heal with and the range limitation of prevoker makes it significantly more difficult to deal with compared to other healers.
Prevoker is the least represented healer in M 20+ and the range is a huge reason for it.