Shortage of Ony Heads

Jee-bloodsail-buccaneers · February 26, 2020, 9:39pm

This is really encouraging, and more of this feedback would be massively helpful. I think the clear answer is removing the buff cooldown, I mean, the worst thing that can happen is buff spam?

Puffymuffins-scilla · February 26, 2020, 9:40pm

Just get rid of the cooldowns. Your servers can’t help the entire server sitting around waiting for a single world buff CD to go off.

Vlonk-tichondrius · February 26, 2020, 9:41pm

your azuregos and kazzaks aren’t just a competition on how many people can blow sappers to wipe the opposing faction?

Leialoha-bloodsail-buccaneers · February 26, 2020, 9:43pm

I couldn’t speak to how things are on PVP or other servers, just my own. I’m glad I’m not a developer; just a player offering my feedback based on my own experiences.

Jee-bloodsail-buccaneers · February 26, 2020, 9:44pm

lol wut. A loud cohort of people trolling up forums and every channel they can on the internet certainly is not “everyone”.

Tyious-garona · February 26, 2020, 9:50pm

On my server we have a server schedule with the guilds that raid which forces my guild to either raid at their time or not get the buff. It makes it unfair. Remove the cooldown! Please!

Willygodx-whitemane · February 26, 2020, 9:55pm

If i leveled a priest to make gold resetting ony. While playing blizzard for an extra sub. I’d be pretty pissed if you made this change.

Cross faction collusion? I’m paying for both accts and you allow me to do it. Of course my characters collude with each other.

Tln-herod · February 26, 2020, 10:01pm

Agreed.

This would cut off the entire motivation for doing this. Stacking world buffs wasn’t common in vanilla anyway.

Valiseer-mankrik · February 26, 2020, 10:10pm

Oh lord please don’t change this. Changing this would mean that people who work full time on populated servers would very rarely be able to get ony buff for raids. I think the fact that alliance are able to kill the horde priest is a perfectly acceptable balance to this.

Pollz-bloodsail-buccaneers · February 26, 2020, 10:14pm

If there were to be a change, I feel like they would remove the cooldown entirely. Because in effect, nothing is meaningfully different and it removes harassment/griefing.

Diggitydave-smolderthorn · February 26, 2020, 10:16pm

Some of us are already playing on servers that have many many more players then any server in vanilla did, if you change this you will make it so much worse for us.

Manletx-malganis · February 26, 2020, 10:17pm

There’s a very easy solution for this, remove the 6hr cooldown of the dragonslayer buff. The fact that guilds are having to level extra characters on the opposite faction so they can MC the NPC and choose their own buff time is ridiculous.

All the issues you addressed in your post can be solved by the removal of the cooldown, vanilla private servers removed the cooldown and had none of these issues regarding same-faction drama/conflict over dragonslayer.

Alilbroken-illidan · February 26, 2020, 10:18pm

Yeah I can agree with this. If they changed it and didn’t remove the cooldown it wouldn’t even really prevent the people who play the game to be competitive against other people from getting ony buff it would only prevent them from playing the game for more days. As it is currently I can count on head being reset as a set time before raid on my raid night, so I can go get my buffs, hearth to SW and wait for the reset and then log out of that character until raid. If it gets changed that just means ill end up having to get my buffs, log out for a longer period of time days ahead of time and then wait until a head is going to drop that I am available during so I can log in to get it. Then I may end up not being able to play that character for multiple days while I sit on buffs waiting for raid.

Gaige-hyjal · February 26, 2020, 10:22pm

just remove the timer, why be lazy about this

anon78845968 · February 26, 2020, 10:24pm

Thank you for your response Kaivax, you are doing a great job!

anon78845968 · February 26, 2020, 10:31pm

I agree. As long as World Buffs are possible, we’re kinda all forced to get them if we want to stay competitive.

It would be great if they just weren’t a thing. Then I wouldn’t have to constantly stress about them anymore.

Oatmealjones-sulfuras · February 26, 2020, 10:34pm

Kaivax:

Cayinasia:

Whats been weird though is theres some people organizing killing the guy in Stormwind. Some Horde priest shows up every day around 6:30 server time, mind controls the NPC then like 200 alliance kill him and they redrop the head again for all the raid guilds.

I have no idea if this is an exploit. Just been noticing it lately.

We’ve recently seen an increase in concerns about players resetting the Rallying Cry of the Dragonslayer buff by killing the associated NPC.

It’s important to note that this behavior is accurate to original WoW, and was possible in 2005 and 2006. Nonetheless, it’s the sort of thing that wasn’t widespread back then, and we believe that if it had been, it would have been addressed. In general, cross-faction collusion is antithetical to WoW gameplay, and the specific circumstance where players pay a member of the opposing faction help them kill their ally feels inappropriate.

There’s a related concern here – it’s entirely possible for players (who don’t know what their allies are doing or want to police what their allies are doing) to kill the hired priest, and then find themselves in conflict with their own faction-mates. We don’t like to see these sorts of hostilities within a faction of players.

Nonetheless, any change to WoW Classic has to be very carefully considered, so for the time being, we’re going to leave this functionality in place. We will continue to monitor this situation, and we may have to change it in the future. We will not suspend players for resetting the buff or attempting to prevent others from doing so. We will continue to take action against players who send hostile or offensive chat messages.

Thank you for your feedback on this.

Pfffffft, so much has already been changed at this point what’s the big deal. Massive servers that can be supported by actual vanilla spawns of Nodes? Perfectly fine. Being able to get a world buff at players leisure? We’re watching this carefully. Absolute crap show sometimes

Vartok-herod · February 26, 2020, 10:35pm

at what? Replying to something that isn’t a freaking problem?

anon78845968 · February 26, 2020, 10:37pm

Yes. Engaging with the community and giving thoughtful insights.

You’d rather he go away? Don’t be silly.

Vartok-herod · February 26, 2020, 10:38pm

He didn’t engage. He made a statement on something that no one gives a crap about.

The bug report forums aren’t filled with people lamenting ony/nef heads. The general forums aren’t either. It was just one guy.