We will not suspend players for resetting the buff or attempting to prevent others from doing so.
clearly states that they will not suspend players for trying to prevent the exploit, which implies intention.
Stop changing things. How about that
Good thing the ony buff isnât required to clear raids.
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LoL umm no.
Technically, He is SUPPOSED to kill the horde priest
and Technically, you are not supposed to invite the Horde priest over to help reset the head drop.
So no he can not get banned for it.
And he does not have to play stupid, the GM is going to tell you to stop reporting before he actions you, because you are not really supposed to do this anyways, itâs a flaw, not a feature.
Then stop exploiting things, and they wont have to.
Or they could resort to perma banning you instead, if that seems more fun?
So, cross-faction collusion is a-okay?
yes. devilsaur mafia was a thing, blizz did nothing.
blizz will do nothing about players taking things into their own hands and providing their raid group with a world buffs.
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stop being obsessed with the buff, this is a non issue
butâs heâs admitted to do it for malicious reasons?
so weâre allowed to do thing malicious that negatively effects hundreds so long as itâs not technically against the rules? that is what youâre saying?
I would not mind them doing this for the first month or 2 weeks of a raid. But it didnât happen with BWL.
Yea, if they were ok with cross faction collusion that controlled an entire market, then why would they even care half as much over just a world buff?
No, you are trying to twist this around.
The player is supposed to kill enemy players in his city.
End of story, 0 discussion, no buh buh butâs
His reasons are totally irrelevant.
The fact that you would rather he not do it so you can leverage an exploit means nothing, it has 0 bearing on the matter, it does not count at all.
He has a guaranteed right to attempt to kill enemy players entering his city.
You have no right what so ever to attempt to leverage an exploit.
If hundreds of people are centering their fun on the completion of an exploit, that is 100âs of people who are doing it wrong.
So if the priest killer continues to do what is fully within the games rules and spirit, as long as he keeps his brain attached to his mouth, No, nothing will be done to him, he is doing what he is supposed to do.
You understand what you guys are doing by making the in game reports and forum posts against those killing the enemy priests right?
You are going to force blizzardâs hand by showing that you are incapable of accepting something as it should be, and unable to act like mature human beings about it, and they will step in and have to make a change, and hard code it from being possible.
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Make the NPCs buff persist through death, since that is the clear intent of having the CD to begin with. This âno changesâ acquiescence by Blizzard, even for obvious bugs that are being exploited against the spirit of the game, is moronic.
and there we go, 0 discussion because you canât defend your point of holding hundreds up
and yet blizz allows it, maybe it is you Sir who needs to walk away
There is nothing to defend.
Hundreds waiting on something they are not really supposed to do have no defense, no matter how you want to try and spin it.
Suggest you re-read the blue post carefully, every word of it.
Suggest you really go back and re-read the blue.
i have, it happened in classic and now people have an issue with it and want it changed, perhaps if you and yours want changes retail is more your style 
You guys are in a pretty tough spot design philosophy wise huh?
I do agree with you, if a change were to be made it would need to be executed carefully.
Itâs not even a discussion that mind-controlling the NPC in order to kill it as a means of resetting the Onyxia head timer is a exploit. The current WoW Classic development team (assuming you folks even have one), has been allowing a large PvE exploit to be continually abused for months.
Frankly pretty annoying the current development team seems to hide behind the mantra of #nochanges despite widespread exploitive game play. What happened to evaluating the merits of decisions based on maintaining the spirit of the game?
The exploit requires cross-faction collusion to pull off. Itâs one thing to have (2) players out in the open world (Horde and Alliance) decide theyâre not going to kill each other on a PvP server.
Maybe you decide to dance with that Troll Mage you meet out in Eastern Plaguelands instead of turning him into a sheep and setting him on fire.
Perhaps you donât immediately start unloading into the rogue who just happened to get to the Black Lotus spawn 10 seconds before you and pick it.
Having a Horde player mind-control a very specific NPC so that it can be killed by Alliance players intentionally as a means of resetting one of if not the most powerful world buff in Vanilla/Classic WoW is extremely exploitative.
The problem is if you actually address the exploitive behavior and donât remove the timerâŚyouâre potentially screwing over guilds that arenât around at the exact right time to get a world buff when Onyxia head is dropped. That will definitely ratchet up inter-faction vitriol and may actually push entire swaths of players to try and play within the confines of the new system, which will restrict player choice even more if they want to be competitive or on an even playing field with other players.
There is significant question in my mind, and in the minds of many other players I would imagine whether world buffs âtrivializeâ end-game PvE content. The answer to this question is honestly on a sliding scale, depending on the nature of your guild/raid. There are some guilds who absolutely donât need world buffs to complete BWL, and wont need them in AQ or even most of Naxx. They use world buffs to move through the content faster, and to see how far they can push the envelope competing with one another.
The issue I have with world buffs is; itâs possible to push the envelope and compete for clear times without world buffs. If world buffs werenât useable in PvE instances, you would still see guilds competing with one another over who could complete the content firstâŚand who could content the fastest.
The existence of world buffs mandates many people who want to play competitively have to play around getting them in order to remain competitive with everyone else. For some players, itâs just another inane ritual they to partake in prior to zoning into a raid every week.
For other players, itâs not an inane ritual at all and they actually enjoy âwarming upâ before a raid by running Diremaul North to get tribute buffs in a (5) man group. Iâm sure there are a bunch of players who enjoy world buffs simply because they like âseeing big damage numbersâ. Sometimes it really is just that simple. Theyâd be clearing the content anyway; but world buff stacking in a (15) year old game makes it more fun for them.
You guys are right to be pretty concerned/cautious.
Good luck.
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Yes you did. Blizzard said they would delete the name off that characters account. My guildie took a week to get blizzard to let him change all his names that were in violation so he wouldnât get a suspension again. Despite the GM saying he shouldnât have been suspended for 24 hours for a first time name change it still happened.
The buff isnât about progression. We donât need Ony or Nef heads to clear content. We want them for speed running.
If world buffs werenât useable in PvE instances
Then why have world buffs in the game at all? Not being able to use them where most players play the game would be pointless.
It happened rarely in vanilla, and most people did not even know that it was possible.
People in vanilla seemed to be a lot smarter and had a lot more self control and tended not to draw overt attention to some flaw they found to work in their favor.
Now days, people beat it into the ground until itâs the most widely known thing in the universe, and then get upset when Blizzard changes something because they have no self control.
And then you go and draw even more attention to it by having a city full of people go report the person who killed the enemy priest, which he/she is kinda supposed to do.
And then some of you get real brilliant and send the person threats.
Which is anything but brilliant because anything you do or type in game is anything but invisible.
So, youâre creating your own problem.
Heck, every time you respond here simply draws more attention to it.
Then again, maybe that is actually your intention to begin with.