yes completely, you now have more flexibility to shatter during “burn” phases or whatnot without serious dps gimps, plus less time eating your pre-pot if you shatter on pull. Also easier to pool rage pre-pull. complete upgrade for warriors who actually shattered. In fact if you didn’t shatter, I hope you get s*** for it, especially now.
And yeah, you still shatter even with 100% ArPen, bc bosses have ArPen suppression, so you need to shatter to remove 100% boss armor no matter what.
I can definitely understand warriors not shattering before the change. Some comps won’t cater to it very well and shattering on pull isn’t always ideal like Freya or hodir before moon beams etc.
After the change if you have other pure or partial physical dps it’s actually trolling not to. You’d lose 50-60 dps or whatever they’re saying it is for your physical to each do 1-200 more during the window.
Thats how it was in last WoTLK. You wanted Classic. You got it. Now stop complaiing about it.
How can this be?
With that logic then who even cares about the legendary,it’s literally at the end of the game.
You farming heroic LK till cata comes out???
I doubt it.
It 1000% does stack with sunders, and is best used when the boss is fully sundered. Shattering throw is the only way to remove the last chunk of armor that armor penetration can not remove (even if at 100%).
You need sunders + faerie fire + shattering + ArP cap to bring the boss to 0 armor.
I’ve been using shattering throw as prot. This glyph is useless to the warrior community.
You’re right, to the warrior community as a whole this is a joke. Warriors are already using shattering throw. It only costs a quick stance change, for a raid dps increase. I use it as prot with communication. This glyph is merely convenience for prot warriors to not have to change stances to shatter for a brief GCD.
For those touting this is a huge increase to warriors, please don’t comment so confidently if you don’t understand how warriors actually play.
Yes, totally useless to remove 90% of the awkwardness of your chainable (with multiple warriors) raid DPS cooldown.
Shattering throw is pretty good in any phase where you have to burn a boss quickly. Doubly so now that you don’t need to change stances and cast it, which actually makes it useable as prot while tanking without dropping your avoidance to 0 for a bit. For the furies, it removes the rage management from the stance swap and heavily reduces the losses on the swing reset.
But warriors were going to complain about any buff that wasn’t an arbitrary 10% increase to bring them to the top of the DPS meters like they feel they deserve because feral got a buff blizz admitted was a mistake.
Shattering throw as prot
Lose your damage reduction while in Battle Stance
Can’t dodge/parry/block while casting
Not generating threat/rage while casting
The only time I can think of using the old shatter as prot is when off tanking and your target is dead.
no u
snarkiness aside there are definitely people who will always ask for more no matter what you give, it’s not warrior unique - the important thing is to look at the argument itself and not the person
Warriors wont be doing that great in ICC until like week 16 because you need to get all the gear possible to even compete, and you guys are spouting that warriors still wont be top 5 with the legendary. Which is true. Thats a problem. Warriors shouldn’t get a few weeks to a month of being sorta good in the expansion lol. Thats just silly.
Warlocks have been S tier every expansion since T4, and still are in retail lol.
They started buffing other classes. Its too late to you cant put the toothpaste back in the tube.
Warriors compete in full Ulduar BiS just fine. It just gets better for them. You are going to be getting gear at around the same pace as everyone else. It’s not like you walk into ICC and locks are instantly doing 17k DPS that you have to catch up with.
Nope, but you also don’t have to just squeeze out the rest of the tube just because you brushed once.
As a prot warrior I see this as an absolute win. This plus whatever that spell queue change will do.
Can we get some confirmation that ST stacks with Sunder? I’m reading conflicting stuff everywhere.
If it doesn’t stack, this is even more of a troll.
Why can’t we just get Sunders up in fewer GCDs and have Slam refresh sunder armor?
it stacks
source: whatever man I know I’m right
in fact it stacks with faerie fire as well
if you wanna be super sweaty get some of those ungoro crystals, they might even still work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwOIqvw-kUw
Hat man says it stacks. I trust hat man.
Hey those ungoro crystals are worth about 20-30k damage over 2 minutes off GCD in your average raid!
Simonize made a good video detailing all the armor penetration stuff for Wrath Classic
Edit: woopee got it posted first.
yeah its not a loss lol
Then why do you bring up ICC and future sims of warriors in every opportunity you get? Yet you don’t face actual numbers like Damage rankings right now?
Curious