I’m curious how other Frost DK’s are speccing themselves since the rework. I know a lot of are going 2h Rider BoS, which I tried. But DW Shattering Strike Deathbringer is still doing way, way better for me personally. I’ve settled on Killing Streak + Long Winter + Shattering Strike + Hyperpyrexia for my capstones for my single target build (with 2 points in Runic Overflow), and for my AoE build I’m going Killing Streak + Long Winter + Avalanche → Frostbane.
I will admit my ST is a smidge weak when I’m in my AoE build but holy cow can Frostbane pump on 5+ targets. On really big pulls I can burst over 20M.
Anyone else sticking with DW Shattering Blade?
Until you get your crit at 30% or more, I think DW is the way to go.
Even with the nerfs, DB is designed better in general compared to rider and is great for dungeons. It is behind in ST though so most likely will play rider in Raid, but DB isn’t behind by much.
Frost Bane DW with the Longwinter and Killing streak feels fun. I wish Frostbane procced differently than it currently does, but overall is still really fun.
In pvp, I think DW will be the way to go because of Frostbane. That think freaking slaps.
2h Breath feels really powerful once you get the crit, but isn’t as smooth as DW frostbane imo.
This probably why a lot of people are complaining. FDK is still pretty dependant on crit to function. If ppl are trying to play 2h with like 18% crit and not using EWR correctly it probably feel pretty bad. Im around 35% crit and DW was still way smoother for KM procs
Does Frostbane do good single for PvP? I’ve not tried yet.
Most of the builds are still competitive even if they aren’t the “best”. I like DB better as well but if you are going the frost bane route, riders has some talents that buff frost strike and therefore buff frostbane. As long as you take obliteration most builds will do +10s and heroic raid.
Frostbane in pvp slaps hard. Since we lose out on oblit cleave, frostbane helps since it will hit aoe. Have this up with 2 riders during pillar and you hit really hard. I had it crit in pvp today over 5 mil on 2 different targets at once.
Yay or nay for Icebreaker? Or Smothering Assault?
More specifically, it’s either:
- 2 pts on Icebreaker, no Frostbane with Smothering Assault
- 1 pt on Icebreaker, Frostbane with Smothering Assault
- 2 points on Icebreaker, Frostbane with no Smothering Assault
- Or 0 pts on Icebreaker, Smothering Assault, Frostbane and 1 pt in something else that probably isn’t IDT since Crit is not really desired in PvP.
Just swap TLW for Shattering.
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This is the DW FB build I was messing with earlier. I have been switching things up a lot though. 2h db seems really fun as well. But a different build.
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I love getting the really big FB or FS, but sometimes that new talent to increase the damage/cost can be detrimental. Taking the rp one rime procs feels mandatory if you take that talent.
2h, I am honestly not sure what I would roll with yet.
I am still messing with things to see what I like. FB based on Razor ice is odd. Simetimes you gotta just use GA even at 5 stacks to get the proc, especially if pillar is about to come back. Then during pillar, pull em in, and boom, damage lol.
I can kind of feel the dammies dealt with FB. Though I am not really a big fan of relying on proc to make it happen. Not a fan of Icy Onslaught for that reason since the node rewards you for failing a Runic Empowerment proc. 
idk, my Void Elf still does damage though even without FB. This is coming from the one who uses DCE that also uses Spatial Rift to reposition effectively.
I suppose I can give away Avalanche for FB. I really don’t want to underestimate it.
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