I’m curious if Shatter is working correctly or if there’s another factor in the percentage chance of it.
I have shatter in frost maxed out, and 6% spell crit. That should be 56% chance to crit on targets that are frozen.
Yet, I get about 20% crit rate. Consistently I can go about 6-8 hits before a crit goes off. Yes it is RNG, but flip a coin in real life that is at 50/50 and see if you can get tails 8 times in a row in a constant nature.
Do enemy mobs have “crit resist” does level “reduce chance to be crit” etc etc?
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Not to necro a old thread but I to noticed it doesn’t seem 50/50. Anyone else having issues?
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Yep, stopped playing my mage because of it. Frost does so little dmg while leveling wit out all those crits it wasnt worth it. Wasnt even fun having a 55% crit chance most of the time and always seeing reg hits.
any word on how shatter is working in classic?
Think the tables are wrong across the board. I have a 55% crit chance with backstab and only crit around 25% if the time. GG
Necroing this thread because I’ve also noticed that Shatter probability seems off. I’ve got three points in it at the moment and the proc rate seems way less than 30%. Been putting points into it each level for the past 3 levels and I haven’t noticed an increase in procs at all, it seems off to me.
From Googling other people seem to have a feeling the proc percentage is off too. I never played a Frost Mage when OG Vanilla came out so can’t say if this is a new bug or not. On my Rogue with Improved Backstab and Ambush the proc rates seem to match (i.e. 30% and 45% respectively) but on my Mage the Shatter proc seems off with Frostbolts, I’ve noticed that Fire Blast seems to proc Shatter more often though. Weird.
Playing on Anniversary btw.
Yes, or more specifically defense level does
You should have made a new thread
I feel like we should check you understand how shatter works first. You aren’t just slowing a target and expecting Shattered to work, right? How are you testing this?
How hard is it to understand how it works? As it says on the talent, crit chance on frozen targets increases by 10%, 20%, 30%, 40% or 50% depending on how many points you have in it. The targets obviously are not slowed, they’re frozen in place either due to a Frostbite proc or Frost Nova’d.
I’m simply going off by what I’m seeing, that is, out of how many spell hits to a frozen target are proccing a crit and from what I’ve seen the crit proc is a lot lower than what the talent is saying it is so I’m asking if other people have noticed this too. I mean this thread was created in 2019 with someone else saying they’ve noticed this.
Other people have also mentioned this online so I’m not the only one noticing it, and it’s strange that people like yourself who reply act like the people who notice this do not have a proper testing set up or whatever, I can read, I can count and I can see things with my eyeballs, or do you think Blizzard is some sort of godlike developer that never stuffs anything up?
Which is why I’m clarifying. Working off your baseless claims is called Feelcrafting. That isn’t even an insult to you, but the first thing to check when someone claims something that has been a talent for one of the most popular specs of the entire game has been insanely broken for 5ish years, that’s kind of a completely wild accusation.
If you want an actual answer here, go to the Mage Discord, link your evidence and they’ll explain why you’re wrong.
People claim stuff like this all the time about classes being broken and it usually comes down to the user not knowing how it actually works and people listening assuming the user does indeed know.
Jesus Christ, all I’m doing is saying that I’ve noticed the same thing as OP has, and I’m not even saying the “class is broken”.
You’re being way too sensitive about this, you could’ve simply read the post and moved on but no, you decided you needed to get mad about someone whom you thought was crying and complaining about the game when I was simply trying to say that I’ve noticed the same thing and wanted other people to chime in on it, not for some Blizzard fanboy to come along and defend their god as if someone has blasphemed them.
Alright you aren’t worth tiptoeing, I’ll just say it.
You are wrong. Join the class discord. Your opinion is stupid. You did not discover a bug that has persisted for 5 years that fundamentally changed how one of the most popular specs in the game works
If you think you did, take it to the Mage Discord. They’ll explain why you’re wrong.
It’s not even an opinion, it’s an observation you toxic weirdo. Why is WoW full of toxic weirdos like you these days? Go outside or something.
For everyone except the toxic weirdo who replied to me with useless information, I guess one way the talent could be interpreted is that your crit strike rate against frozen targets is increased based on your spell crit, so if your Frost crit rate is 5% then 5 points in Shatter means you get 7.5% chance to crit. I don’t know if that makes any sense though because as I said when I play on my Rogue I get Backstab/Ambush crits more often when those are maxed at 30% and 45% respectively.