There is zero chance that SoD devs are this inept to not think Shamans needed fixing phases ago. They have way too much in their tool kit individually not to mention how much they bring to a team fight. Why would anyone even want to world pvp and BG currently?
Shamans can do the following:
Have insane mitigation with rogues (as seen in many vods) only doing 15-20% damage during a full CS & KS
Ability to interrupt spells with a hard hitting interrupt
Totems that can be launched around them
A freedom totem that also causes rogues to drop combo points built up on them.
Guaranteed crit lava burst that procs overload to hit for over 60%+ of someones health
Instant heal (Riptide)
There may be more that I am failing to list that I am sure people will add. At this point we are seeing teams regularly coming premade in WSG with 4+ ele shamans running riptide. You interrupt one shaman, but by the time it takes you to stop one of the other 3 have hurled 3 lava bursts at you one shotting you.
Why would anyone be interested in playing against that?
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LOL the rogue mad because he couldn’t kill the Shaman in a stunlock.
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You should get someone low or kill them in a 9 second stun lock. If they dont even get close to 50% then theres clearly something wrong with their DR.
I am baffled how shamans arent requesting a fix also. It cant be fun killing people so quickly without any need to “try.” It seems like it would be funny sometimes to 1 shot or 2 shot someone, but if its constant then I would get so bored personally.
Shamans are just too strong in every aspect of pvp. You would think something that does a lot of damage should be squishy like a mage, but thats not the case with ele shamans.
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If Rogue doesn’t get Cloak in Phase 4, I probably will be done with SoD.
The DoT domination and never being able to go back stealth is starting to get under my skin. The class is almost broken or unplayable, almost. You can still camp in stealth and open up on people with no HP, but that’s about it. Vanish is almost unusable, you get pulled out of stealth by everything, everything has an AOE slow, some of them have stuns AND roots AND CC in their kit (omegalul).
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they needs taxes on these runes. reduced healing on riptide effects also rework the lava burst instant casts down more damage and make it less frequent
What’s your home address?
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I also play rogue, but see pvp like this: not every class should be able to solo every class. Rogue vrs Shaman might be a weak spot for us, but geez there are always plenty of classes we can destroy with minimal effort. As a rogue plsyer, im not bothered by shamans. The fun factor as a rogue, is if youre quick enough to get in on a weakened shaman, you can take him out or if you cant you have plenty of escape tricks to get away from him safely. Pvp has never and will never be balanced around 1v1.
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I always felt CoS was to op for rogue and interrupts the natural balance of pvp by letting the rogue live through situations that should normally send them to the GY.
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shadow priests, rogues and hunters will kill sod way before shamans do.
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I think that is somewhat their point abou them being an outlier. A Shaman shouldn’t really be mitigating more than a plate user with a shield which appears to be the issue.
Honestly though the current Shaman population can be a worry these days, the amount of nonsense and justification a lot try and put out is just ridiculous, whilst meanwhile talking down other hybrids doing exceptionally poor dps because “you have utility so you can’t have damage” like they don’t have some of the best utility in the game.
It’s really been a stark contrast from the genuine Shaman players who at the start of SoD where making posts like “please nerf Rockbiter AP buff, it’s going to make us broken” to the new FotM rerollers crying about the prospect of being brought down a notch so they aren’t quite as busted as they are right now.
None of this matters until they find a real fix for you pvpers. There is no balance in sod pvp stop trying to make it work, it’s hopeless at this point.
Shamans are living through situations that should send them to the shadow realm x100 and are also going 40 - 1 in BGs.
Also they’re actively putting in global DRs, what you’re saying doesn’t even align with reality lol.
Also you’re basically saying Rogues have been OP in WoW since they got Cloak? I’m so confused, what tense, what timeline are you talking about?
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No way! Deathknights are killing SOD way worse then any class! Nerf DK’s!
Theres never been real balance in wow pvp ever!
Yeah if the person they’re attacking is in greens/raid gear and the Rogue is in full PVP gear, with full weapons, sure.
Not trinketing the stun isn’t an excuse.
