Please tell me how this results in humans doing less damage.
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They are less viable then orcs. Just because humans themselves didnât change doesnât mean everything else around them didnât become better and in the case of factions made horde the defacto pick if what you care is stats/utility.
If you truely donât see an issue with it then you shouldnât mind giving humans orc stun resist/blood fury + other orc racials and Orcs can get Diplomacy and the spirit bonus in return. Easily solution. No faction imbalance.
Or better yet just swap the racials of orcs and humans completely. If you really think there is no problem. Just change the names to make them more humany or orc like.
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Stop moving the goal posts and answer the question: How does this nerf humans?
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I told you. It buffed something else that was already on par. Humans arenât isolated other things exist.
Or you could answer: âDoes the change buff Orcs?â
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Including humans. Did you know it is possible to use weapons besides Swords and Maces? You have axes, fist weapons, and daggers.
Your human rogues donât have +5 to daggers you know. Your human warriors donât have +5 to axes and fist weapons.
But now they will.
This is a buff to humans. Stop crying and accept your buff you big baby.
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How much do I need to pay blizzard for my orc to be stun immune? I got the cash ready.
Iâm kinda pissed too about the whole sham thing but geeeezzz itâs almost overâŚIâm just guessing but I really think they may roll P4 out before cata to end this âexperimentâ.
At this point why not just enjoy what little time left we have of this âtime sinkâ and get alongâŚnone of this will matter in a couple of monthsâŚ
Nah, all the BiS weapons are Swords so this means nothing
For someone whose saying its such a big buff for humans too its crazy how you wouldnât want to swap orcs and humans racials.
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Arguing with Balthalor is beyond worthless and you should probably just quit trying. The guy lives in a universe where the gameâs balance doesnât matter and will constantly move the goal posts and accuse you of doing the same. He plays the best race-class combo in the game and has an extremely simplistic Darwinist and myopic vision of class balance where there are never any problems and anything that you perceive to be wrong is because you made incorrect choices. He thinks itâs OK for Shamans to be busted because they used to not be busted or whatever. His philosophy is dated, selfish, uneducated, and incredibly biased towards himself.
Heâs on top and heâll find a way to argue itâs a good thing no matter what you do or say.
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Well obviously, anyone whose been on the forums longer then a week knows that. Doesnât mean I donât want to here his dumb answer. Its comical listening to the crap some of these people make up.
I have seen horde players literally say with one breath that âitâs well known that horde has the best pvp racials and if you wanted to PvP you should have gone horde, your faultâ and then in the next breath âitâs good actually that weâve been given the vast majority of the alliance pve advantagesâ and then in the next breath âthere is no imbalance, alliance are just badâ
Itâs impossible to untangle the web of cognitive dissonance and logical problems. They just think theyâre good because theyâre winning. Nothing ever has to do with the numerous advantages they have. Nothing ever has to do with any imbalance. Paladins are OP because bubble no matter how bad they are. Shadowmeld is way better than you think, actually, because theyâve died to a night elf in Shadowmeld before. Itâs a wildly simplistic, self-centered view of the game and theyâll defend it till they die.
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Yeah, about right. Most people on the forums are not consistent in what they say in the slightest and usually just want to make sure that they keep whatever advantage they can get.
You know how you know Horde have an advantage? Because they think the gameâs balanced. Have a look at the forums, have a look at reddit. Not a peep from horde players about any game balance issues. Anyone whoâs been playing the game for a while knows that means theyâre just advantaged. If the alliance were super quiet on the forums, it would mean the same thing. The only time horde players are talking about things they think are strong are when theyâre defending their advantages, and they do it by asking âWhat about paladinsâ or whatever else. Itâs just so clear and transparent the state of the game right now.
That meant you didnt even bother dispelling flame shock from urself. You deserved to get blasted. lol
By the same token⌠its common knowledge that alliance racials arenât as bad as people say. The only place it really, even matters 90% of the forum wonât ever reach high rating arenas and tournaments.
I forgot that was BiS, oh wait
Weâre talking âmax powerâ here, daggers are the only counter argument here
It is bis, at least during AQ.
Which is, surprise, a buff to humans. But the argument given to me was:
So please, Alliance, Iâm begging you to open your own eyes here and realize this benefits you too, so stop trying to doom and gloom about it and enjoy it for what it is.
This is just nonsense. Everyone can understand the value of just passively resisting 1/4+ of all stuns. That impacts players of every level. So does having an instant fear break. So does a PBAOE stun every 2 minutes.