do these people have no shame they jump from class to class begging blizzard for nerfs whenever a new class starts performing well, it’s just so annoying this song and dance has been going on since the first hour of SOD
So Tru!!!
Prepared to be ruined by Shamans on this forum!!!
I have a better proposal.
Delete Pallies, and make all Pally characters Shamans. 
That way, everyone is happy.
Jeez, you really just want to nerf Shamans into the ground huh?
All that really needs to happen is a nerf to Stormstrike. Giving DW Shamans a Mutilate with a guaranteed WF proc every few seconds turned out to be a dumb idea, as fun as it’s been.
The amount of Alliance clothies laying dead and not releasing after getting one tapped has been fun to witness.
I find it funny people complaining about wcl dps… these people click on 99th percentile but actually have no idea what goes into reaching those numbers. I wonder how much gold he spends per raid on consumes on a DMF week. For me it’s around 60-70g just in consumes.
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Those changes would take them from “hands down best tank in the entire game for all content at all times, period” to still better than warrior/druid/rogue tanking.
They’re that much further ahead that everyone else.
Sadly true
Not sure about all that, considering you want a Rockbiter nerf when applied to both weapons and at the same time wanting WoE only usable while having a shield equipped.
Just sounds like you want Shamans to be a gimped version of Paladin.
oh they want shamans gutted.
dont get it twisted.
simple thing would be to just make way of earth require a shield.
thats it.
thats the only change needed at all.
it removes the tank that can do uber damage and doesnt touch anything else .
as someone who runs wf/rb i die just as easily to all forms of cc and 1shots in pvp but i can still output damage too.
and before you say they still would be broken i would point you to pallies who along with priest are 1 of the 3 classes currently that can survive things that can 1 shot every other class along with way of earth dual rb shaman and priests in dispersion.
so unless you want to gank dispersion from priests and bubble from pallies you need to rethink what youre saying.
Sure.
Sure, 20% stam.
No. This would make a rune near useless on single target even worse. Paladin restore is infinitely better for boss tanking. This is one reason dualwield tanking is popular. We don’t block for crap on 1 target. TLDR Shield mastery is already near useless on single target. It only shines on multi target.
This is such a non issue.
Absolutely not.
Nobody even asked for this buff. So whatever here.
Then make mana tide baseline or buff mana spring.
No. Just limit us to 1 rockbiter.
30 minutes.
Just limit us to 1 rockbiter.
Then they would need to add way more mail gear with the hybrid hit%. We need both to function. I would concede on the offhand bonus being reduced to 25%.
give shams bloodlust and watch alliance cry more
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So paladins for the entirety of wrath? All three specs were S tier for the entire expansion.
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I hope one of our head runes is self bloodlust at a bare minimum
Forcing wote to require a shield is a -65% damage loss for tanks shamans putting them below every other tank damage wise which is fine ,but what not is fine is that shamans using shield legit have no buttons that actually gain a benefit from using a shield unlike both pally and warrior. Your entire rotation would be just be autos and limited shock usage as in single target shield spec isn’t even close to providing the mana to use shocks/molten blast on cd. I’m all for some nerfs but giga griefing tanks while we are already in a tank shortage probably isn’t a great idea.
They should be or else shamans will start a coalition and never invite anyone but shamans. Shaman best tanks shamans best melee dps give them healers too and they will start their own faction
Warriors should get bloodlust seeing as classes now share same buffs like WS and lions.
Shaman 1HANDER damage against me, a lvl 40 paladin, in about 2 seconds or less:
Melee swing hits me for 473 Physical (critical)
Stormstrike hits me for 159 Physical
Stormstrike hits me for 225 Physical
Frostshock hits me for 221 Frost
Melee swing hits me for 501 Physical (critical)
Melee swing hits me for 162 Physical
Melee swing hits me for 156 Physical
Stormstrike hits me for 144 Physical (23 Overkill)
My 2HANDER damage against a 33 Highland Thrasher:
Melee swing hits Highland Thrasher for 392 Physical (Critical)
Melee swing hits Highland Thrasher 192 Physical
Melee swing hits Highland Thrasher 202 Physical
Melee swing hits Highland Thrasher 441 Physical (Critical)
Melee swing hits Highland Thrasher 219 Physical
Melee swing hits Highland Thrasher 31 Physical (191 Overkill)
Why are 1 handers hitting as hard, sometimes harder, and critting harder than my 2 hander?
Decoy totem is off the charts broken and not consumed when it eats a stun, their heals are still insane and fast as ****, their damage is out of control, they can purge seals and blessings without penalty as much as they want…
You have to be on some HEAVY drugs to think Shaman aren’t broken and Paladins need a nerf.
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lol… what the hell
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Shaman was the lowest dps in the game across all specs in P1. Now we are doing decent numbers, but aren’t the top dps. As you stated. Why is that such a big problem seeing as we suffered as the worst dps in the game being out dpsed by tanks for the entirety of P1?
Bro, LOOK AT PRIEST
This class has literally been broken and magnitudes-stronger than every class since November. They have been the best pvp and pve class since release.
I’ve completely lost faith in this team. They don’t care about pvp, at all.