1 - Flametongue Weapon (Elemental)
2 - Primal Strike (Elemental)
3 - Lightning Shield (Restoration)
These three ability does do jobs in certain situation. However, from my gameplay. Elemental’s 1 and 2 skills is truly useless, I did not even drag them to my actionbars. Primal Strike with insanely high mana cost and do a little melee single-target damage. not even worth to use a frost shock with little cost and multiple times high damage. Even frost shock is very low damage but still.
Flametougue Weapon is useful for Enhancement Specialization, however, its tiny additional damage would actually doing nothing. Especially for element. why would it be this situation where other classes’ general abilities are still in use but shaman’s are not. Or, I mean if this is it, then its better to remove the Flametougue and Primal strike when you are Elemental.
Lighting Shield, doing nothing in terms of damage, but has use for the maelstrom. However, they might have realized this and is going to be enhanced next few weeks with 500% bonus damage. This change is a sign of not at all played this ability when they are in beta trial or testing. but still with a 3s internal cooldown to trigger it is still very weak.
My suggestion is to change it into instant counterstrike for the damage part not the maelstrom part. However, the damage amount still should be somewhat increased a little if in this case. such as 120 per hit instead of 60 which useless in terms of damage and with a internal cooldown.
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They are abilities for leveling shaman and not spec dependant
I actually get use out of Lightning Shield in torghast as resto, though the damage scaling on it is too low
Primal strike as well should do similar damage to Crusader Strike imo, but once again its the ability that Enhance gets before Stormstrike so for that its a placeholder… could be niche for resto instead of using lightning, but then again they also gave frost shock no cd so also don’t see the point
Flametongue I’d rather just see disappear, used to be a spellpower buff for elemental and even for enhance really just an annoyance to need to have to apply it anymore instead of simply being on all the time (same with Windfury)
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There’s something wrong when an Elemental Shaman has to use a weapon oil (Shadow) because its superior to a class ability. In addition, it should greatly enhance our weapon for Primal Strike so we have something to use while interrupted rather then run around like a chicken with a cut off head.
Lightening Shield is buggy. At times it gets removed when entering an instance or portaling - portal, class, hearth, or Maw. In addition, it’s become very annoying that it’s a 30 minute buff rather then 1 hour like our weapons. The damaged and maelstrom build up for Elemental is meh. Since it’s all you have, better then nothing.
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You’re wearing your covenant tier set, it causes your elemental shield to be buffed, which results in it dropping when you change zone. It’s not difficult to put it back up again, or get some better gear.
Yes, Elemental should have a better weapon imbue. However, resto and elemental never really used them before except for levelling. They were there for Enhancement or when you were out of mana in vanilla.
Rockbiter = increased threat - you would never want this as ele / resto
Frostbrand = slow your target - you wouldn’t want to slow a melee target in melee range as a range unless you’re trying to escape from them, but you have frost shock which is far more effective
Flametongue = applies fire damage on hits for additional melee damage
Windfury = causes extra attacks on melee hit
So it makes sense that resto and elemental wouldn’t use flametongue now, it was not designed for them. It’s there so that while you’re levelling up, before you learn any real spells or enough to kill something without going oom, you have a way to do extra melee damage.
They could change this however. They did have earthliving weapon at one point, and given that the oils are not needed for Enhancement, Death Knights, or Rogues, there really should be an option for the other Shaman specs to not need them to.
The undisputed useless ability is Far Sight.
It’s the king of all the useless abilities in every game known to humankind .
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we agreed on lightning shield’s low damage, this is useless. I use Elemental, easily passes all Torghast including twisting corridor. if I use Restoration, I would rather choose Earth Shield. The other two former Enhancement ability could be removed just like before, no need for there to do a strange placeholder. Why would they do this??? If they do not buff these abilities, they are completely useless for Elemental and Restoration, even the auction house stuff is like 10 times powerful than these
If you think thats bad having abilities like that you’d never bind
Should I tell you about druid’s Charm Woodland Creature and Flap (even though you need to take balance affinity to even use it lol)
Personally, I know primal strike should go for all 3 specs, even if it was scaled properly I don’t think ele or resto would use it over the ranged options
Lightning shield I think for resto could be changed to a cooldown like thorns and be an active ability for a short time… though i also don’t think resto needs that either, they already have counterstrike and do decent damage as a healer
could simply say water shield replaces lightning shield too and I’d be happy
have these two former Enhancement ability is really nothing, why would u use them, for a 16 bonus damage plus your weapon still less 100. This such damage would be enough to fight against any melee Specializations? I would say its rather running away when controlled or disrupted. It cost insane mana
You can’t even use it on RBG, where it could have a niche utility :D. Would be nice to bring some tactical information with the spell and it would be a nice little bonus for the group for bringing in a shaman.
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I use it in Torghast to find the right way lol. It’s also kinda fantastic for wpvp. Should be allowed in RBGs tho.
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Not really - Eyes of the beast is. Specially when one of our Torghast Talents is about buffing your dmg when you have eyes of the beast active.
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Lightning Shield is getting a damage buff(not sure if its only for enh) It isn’t the defensive buff anyone asked for.(Toughness come on blizzard) But the damage buff may be good, we’ll have to see.
I’d love to see a rework on Flametongue. I have no ideas! haha But if anything buff its damage by a decent amount.
Spellpower for elemental and resto so they don’t need to use weapon oils
Problem solved
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I use far sight all the time.
Do the same effect as one of the oils at least
Shadowcore oil does 220 shadow damage, so could just be that but fire
Flametongue for resto could also have the effect of Embalmer’s Oil and also do extra 330 healing/absorb… though could just call it Earthliving Weapon then lol
Where you in a EoTS with me few hours earlier ? 
And what do you use Far Sight for ?
Nope. Wasn’t me. Ive been at work all day.
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Yeah what the hell is primal strike? I would be really happy if primal strike was a 2h that could windfury for us so it can stay weak but sometimes dump 3 shots for a decent pop.
Its an ability placeholder to tell people before lvl 10 that we have a melee spec since they cannot give stormstrike, windfury, or lava lash to the class baseline.
Well, with the patch hitting yesterday, can officially confirm that outside of solo stuff, the lightning shield is useless. You get better use out of talenting into earth shield. So long as we aren’t taking direct melee damage, the lightning shield just sits there still, looking cool, but completely useless. With that said, so long as the tank is doing their job, we don’t get lightning shield procs. And the 50% chance to proc a maelstrom weapon is completely negated when we aren’t proccing our lightning shield…