Shaman runes are in terrible order - class felt awful to level

I just leveled a shaman and found it quite easy. Tanking dungeons was easy, and enhance with either Lava Lash or Water Shield was quite efficient for questing.

You can also get Lava Burst well before 25. Just need someone to help. I duo’d it at level 20 with a 22 shaman. Also – and I didn’t even do this while leveling – but you can get Shamanistic Rage ASAP and then have a full mana bar every minute with an equip swap.

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Tank king is great but the original is right. If you want to be elemental it’s not good. But it never was until 40 but isn’t this SOD all for being different than normal. So shame shaman other specs couldn’t be good at low levels but they put lots into tanking so their is that.

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Tanking isn’t even that great either, it’s always mana starved and you will end up giving up molten blast that does no damage whatsoever for water shield.

The other specs are worse LMAO, this class got the worse runes.

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You cant get water shield rune until 20. Just wanted to point that out. You can get the item earlier but cant equip until 20.

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You arent giving up molten blast for aoe situations. Molten blast for aoe, water shield for single target.

I’m having a ton of fun leveling as tank Shaman. you can also get all of the runes at level 12. Can get the first two at like level 4.

yeah

shaman tanks are mana starved on dungeons , water shield helps but the mana returned on block is not enough.

molten blast is for threath not for dmg , like the reset timer synergy but for now isnt worth u have to give up water shield for it and tanks need mana or no threat at all.

Future runes will prolly fix it

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And? The point stands. Molten blast is horrible damage and is like using rank 1 earth shock.

Does nothing to bosses and water shield is needed in those situations because you will have no mana if you don’t use it.

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It’s literally the best in the game right now, and it sounds like you’re mashing molten blast on cooldown whenever it’s up instead of just using it to secure group aggro.

You’re not supposed to use it on bosses for damage, it’s a bloody group aggro ability. You’re better off dropping the shield and DW tanking with LL if you’re worried about damage.

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Tanking also cares about dps which shaman does nothing at all, tanking while dual wield is stupid.

Molten blast only helps because of the aggro but other than that it does no damage whatsoever and you need to use water shield on bosses or you will be completely mana starved.

Stop talking about “spamming” you can’t spam, you are just using your abilities to increase dps and doing that leaves you mana starved, stop pretending that having to downrank abilities is normal, it’s not, shaman tanks have a problem with mana.

If you use lava lash as a tank you will be absolutely mana starved in like a second.

I am noticing that shaman is the dunning Kruger class, full of people that think they know a lot or that they are special, chunnys that think they are the protagonist or something because when someone brings up that shaman has problems as a class always people like you jump to defend it’s poor state because you dunning Krugers think you know something we don’t and pretend you are better than the people complaining.

Blocked.

Tanks only need enough dps to hold threat, but our threat modifiers between Rockbiter, ES, and WoE are so abnormally high that we can get away with holding threat with lower levels of dps than other classes would.

Shields are pretty much useless against most caster bosses and pretty much totally useless against uninterruptible casters like Arugal and Kelris. You’re not going to block anything and your armor is going to waste. Put another weapon if your off-hand, throw on double rockbiter, and pretty much fall asleep at your keyboard because the threat modifier between the two rockbiters is additive and literally no class in the game can take threat off you right now. And you’ll just outright be doing more damage as well because rockbiter is disgusting.

This small fraction of your post alone tells me everything I need to know about how inflexible and close minded you really are in terms of the strategies you’re willing to actually try and use.

Bro LL costs 5 mana at max, if I’m running out of mana before the boss dies something has gone VERY wrong in the pull.

Everyone is having a problem with mana right now, it’s not unique to Shamans. Hunter is probably the only exception to this rule, but Hunters have been the problem child of WoW since its inception. We don’t have it worse than the others in this regard.

Oh, grow up.

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SoD Shaman felt almost as easy as hunter. 5 points into shield talents, shield rune on chest, WoE on legs. Done. At level 10-12 with all INT gear I was getting like 50-80 mana per block.

Just hit 25 and went resto but at 24 I was getting over 150 mana from a water shield/block when I first pulled a mob. Sometimes I would throttle back and legitimately drank less than 20 times from 15-24. First time tanking WC I drank 1 time after Cobrahn and then 1 or 2 more times after that.

I’m stacking INT because the dps of our shocks DOUBLED via being on different cooldown timers. I haven’t tanked BFD so I’m not sure what challenge that brings that I might not have encountered yet.

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Aside from Kelris where the shield becomes useless and you DW to push the dps check, pretty much nothing.

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BDF is just bad for spells and in general this season is bad for spellcaster, Shaman is not going to be a good class for SOD, 99% of it’s attacks are spells, you have almost no melee skills specially as tank.

BFD just go so much better with ZERO casters.

Yeah he won’t. You can tell by the 1-25 cadence and the landscape of sod in general that it’s an alliance pool party

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Can you get off the forums for one day? No one cares what you say anymore.

Also, shamans are going to be S tier next phase.

did they ever? lol

So far for BFD I have seen 2-3 warlock tanks, 1-3 warrior tanks, and 10+ shamans tanking it. I have seen zero rogue tanks, zero druid tanks, 1 dedicated mage healer.

After shamans I have seen hunters tank almost as often as every other tank class, so I assume we have some wildly different perspectives.

Edit: General sidenote, you will find better gear at later levels for shaman itemization. Rockgrip gauntlets, and if you’re lucky the dagger off princess will probably be BIS for shaman and I would bet my large green sack for warlock tanks it might be BIS partly through MC or beyond.

You right.

Correlation doesn’t mean causation.

People are playing shamans because they are cool and are obviously the flavor of this first phase, everyone has been wanting to tank with Shamans since vanilla.

They are not really playing with tank shaman because is the best tank and doesn’t mean the class is without issues. It’s a spell class primary, it will suck compared to melee even enhancement will suck compared to full melee classes, unless they decide to add intellect scaling into spells or something, physical classes will be king.