Not at all, Paladins needed to be buffed to be horde worthy.
As a shaman player back in Vanilla, if I saw a paladin I took it as a challenge. I didnât keep stats, but the fights seemed 50/50. It all came down to resource management, since both classes could fight and heal. But I was very casual, my Shaman only got to Senior Sergeant.
The game really hasnât had a place for Shaman since they decided to give paladins to horde and shaman to alliance. The shaman has been a gutted class, and continues to be so, since that time.
BfA elemental spec is fun to play, but undertuned dps. Sadly, it sounds like theyâve gone and nerfed the fun part but left the undertuned dps in place by splitting maelstrom into 2 resources to manage.
im not sure but didnât they re add windfury totem back in shadowlands maybe its not that strong?
Shaman? You do realise they have an off cd 30% movement speed steroid and immunity to slow affects below base movement speed right?
While that may be true, very few classes have the track record of neglect like Shaman
People forget that SV hunters exist 
I agree, death knights should be given bloodlust too.
Honestly, I loved the battle mage fantasy of shaman in classic, but people build metas, and few elemental shamans even have /startattack keybound even though they still have windfury weapon and weapon swap at their disposal.
The class has been homogenized and feels weird now. I want elemental shamans to have a reason to autoattack, i want enhancement shamans to have a reason to cast, I want resto shamans to have a reason to autoattack.
The aesthetics of Shaman are amazing, with the actions of elements bringing pure, raw nature as a power your foes are to contend with.
Although, on the other hand, most end up laughing at shaman players since they hit like a wet noodle. When compared to other classes, your working three times as hard to be below top dps usually, minus the few exceptional master shaman players.
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Elemental also got a bit of a rework as well! Changes to Shaman in SL actually look decent.
The real issue is they didnât address their survivability which is honestly the biggest thing holding them back in high end content.
Which ironically is also the least in demand healing cooldown for things like M+ where it often harms the group more than it helps.
Iâm surprised most Shaman donât get to like a grievous week and go âyeahâŠnow is the time to rerollâ.
You say that, I mained my shaman Gulkas since 2005 and quit after a particularly humiliating week of grievous.
You say that but honestly I donât think any Shaman can be humiliated on a grievous week.
Anyone brave enough to drag their poor Shaman into a grievous affix deserves the respect of the group regardless of the outcome lol.
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Oh.
Is it your⊠first time?
I honestly am fine with its current state, for elemental at least. I dislike how enhance feels atm though.
Getting hit by a 2h double WF proc was not cool
Indeed. The problem is Team 2 doesnât design their encounters around the classes. They design encounters, and then they try to work the classes around to make them fit how they want raid encounters to feel.
The problem is that they donât know how to fit Shaman into their newer paradigms, so they keep doing rework after rework and not fixing them because their class fantasy doesnât really seem to mesh with the way they want raid encounters to work. Any other time Shaman has done something unique, like how they were dominant on the Marâgok fight, Blizzard seems to crack down on them because whatever special thing they bring to the table ends up not fitting their vision of how encounters should be experienced.
This also goes for M+. Blizzard has most recently tried to band-aid fix Shaman into relevance by making lack of Bloodlust/Timewarp extremely crippling, but the end-result is more than likely going to be just bringing a Mage rather than bringing a Shaman.
Every expansion I tell myself Iâm going to main change and I dont because it looks good and I keep my hopes high just to have them completely destroyed. At least this time around its very obvious how bad Ele is and how a lot of their abilities have a complete disconnect. At least they are making Enhance great again. I just dont know what Blizzard has against Ele shams.
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Just wait for the âLeGenDArIeSâ and borrowed power systems. Canât wait.
Yeah, Resto Sham had definitely had its days oâ plenty in the doodoo house. Like, just being real, Shaman and Holy Priest(and recently Disc) have been eating turd burgers for a ridiculously long time. And at least Disc gets to shine in most raid encounters, if not Mythic keys.
Just being real, I seem to recall one patch that I remember, and Iâve played since late Vanilla, but in first or second patch of WoD, I recall Shaman being close to people thinking about calling them âreally goodâ. I wanna say HighmaulâŠbut Iâve done drugs since thenâŠ
Whereas on my Holy Pally, I donât recall a single patch in the forever that was bad. Same for Resto Druid.
I donât know if itâs favoritism or just the uncanny act of consistently shoddy development for certain classes but I would love to just once have Resto Shaman be the âhotâ fotm healing spec. Just for a minute.
âŠwait, I guess I got my Pally for getting easy groups and being a healing rockstarâŠ
I happened to push my first cutting edge that tier. For Highmaul resto shaman was considered completely unviable, but during BRF we got buffed hard and were second best behind holy priest.
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I knew it was around that little period of time. But wasnt that a rare occasion for Resto Shaman and Holy Priest both that the briefly shines? My brain be foggy but my point does stand.
Would be wild as hell to see everybody re-rolling and Shamans everywhere if they ever did get crunk up out of C tier status. Can you imagine the sight? All the people suddenly saying; IvE mAiNeD sHaM SiNcE VanNilLa kek!