big of an exaggeration imo, but i’m all on board for rogue nerfs
3 Likes
It was a cool and unique ability for sure but basically impossible to balance given the rest of subs kit, especially being able to have duel and bomb at the same time.
Ehh it had some counterplay but not much, and things were wildly inconsistent, on my pres Emerald communion doesn’t go through duel for example.
But this is what was part of the problem with it though, the mere existence of the ability being available in the enemy rogues kit required you to sit on certain cooldowns until duel was used.
2 Likes
Worst, definitely. Interesting concept though if they tied it to another ability maybe divine protection.
Also rip aura of reckoning 
2 Likes
Even if it was applied to Divine Protection it would still be a really awkward talent, when you press your defensive cd you can see invis? It’s just awful and punitive. Like what i’m going to open the fight with bubble just to get them out of stealth?? Then you get blasted out of existance. Trully the worst design
We lost aura of reckoning one of our best pvp talent for that…
And also making healing hands only applies to you now, no longer buff wog on allies.
And i dont know how strong the pvp talent for healing recieved from lightbringer but looks like all the bland and bad talents were given to ret/paladin.
Even the res one after you mark a player for dead is awful
Would have been back in SLS1, bubble 1st global.
Ok but where the hell are these notes and junk?
Seems like a talent that was designed by a dev who base sits in BG’s and was sap/restealth capped on by a rogue.
Also not sure why they are removing aura of reck and not compensating us with at least some form of throughput option. Lawbringer returning to a reasonable hp% again would be kind of nice, something…
2 Likes
Yeah this isn’t real news. Bye.
Let me just use my bubble to see if theres any invis close. Nope no one is around. Great you just wasted your biggest defensives and put you on forbearance for 30sec.
Same scenario for arenas, popping your biggest defensive to find invis at start is hella mad design.
Losing Aura of Reckoning hurts, its leaving us with only 2 good pvp talents out of 7 and the 5 others are terrible. Other classes have 11-13 pvp talents. Ret is lacking pvp talents.
1 Like
The redesigned lumi willl be a default pick for 3s, mostly useless for anyone who plays Ret in 2s. Seems like they want to pigeonhole the spec into being a fully support dps.
Still not keen on the idea of “I heal my teammates by being healed”. With the healing hands nerf it just means everytime the real healer is CC’d we are mostly a wet noodle again lol.
I think it’s more like rogue can’t just insta vanish bubble and wait it out.
If they can’t trade into it that’s gonna be one of their immediate outs esp as pala doesn’t really have any way to knock them out otherwise, then they wait for bop/bubb to fall, dr to refresh and go again
1 Like
It’s ok. None of this is real until someone shows a link to the changes anyways.
You have an interesting way of coping with reality, bro 
1 Like
You’re so out of reality that you’re literally dreaming of inexistent patches.
3 Likes
Yeah I finally baited someone into posting proof. Glad my ability to make someone rage-post worked. The other people weren’t biting so I took one for the team and pretended to care. Thank you for falling for it and posting the link I was too lazy to look for.
Goodbye most un-used ability ever. Hello Disarm!
1 Like
lol what? Duel is one of the most broken abilities to ever exist.
It’s trash and not needed. I am glad to dump it for Disarm. Haa-haa to anyone who ever relied on it. Owned.
Congratulations. This might be the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read on these forums, and Amatox posts here about some pretty wacky stuff.
There’s nothing wrong with Amatox. Also removing shadowy duel after many nerfs, and making rogue bad is not a bad thing. In fact the class should be F tier for a while so that the PvP population gets amother much needed shrink.